[Artemisia] [Fwd: [SCA_CHARIOTS] Digest Number 36]

Yaasamiin Yaasamiina at rmci.net
Thu Dec 14 11:38:56 CST 2006


Interesting stuff about dog carts with reference to medieval times.
Enjoy,
Yaasamiin


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            Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:11 am (PST)

     > > Does anyone know the history of bells on harness? ...
     > > Is the use of "sleigh bells" particularly New World ...?
     > ---------------------
     > Anecdotal:
     >
     > The teamsters working in the late 19th early 20th century commonly
     > hung bells on their teams. If one broke down on the road
     > and another stopped to help, it was customary to give up you
     >bells in payment.
     >
     > I don't know if there is any truth to the explanation, ...
     >
     > Else

    In 1935, an old long distance teamster wrote that American teamsters
    would give up their bells as payment for help. I never checked to
    see if this were true or something he made up.

    Harness and Pack, Arthur Treadwell Walden, 1935. American Book
    Company
    (Mr. Walden was famous for frieghting with dogs, but he also worked
    with horses and mules.)

    I also read somewhere that there were old USA traffic laws that
    required a vehicle to have bells if it were pulled by an unshod
    draft animal. The bells were to warn pedistrians of the approach of
    the vehicle. When snow was on the ground, all vehicles had to have
    bells since snow muffles the sound of horse shoes on pavement.
    Hence, why we associate "bells" with sleighs.

    Side note: Canine carts used in New York City in the 19th century
    were well known for their bells.
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            Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:47 pm (PST)

     > Harness and Pack, Arthur Treadwell Walden, 1935.
     > American Book Company

    Chapter 7, The Jerk-Rein Freight Team
    Pages 66 - 68

    As with the teams used on the Conestoga wagon, the driver rode the
    nigh-wheel horse. ... A long jerk rein that ran to the bit of the
    nigh leader provided the driver with his only means of control. ...
    The leaders always had high bows of bells over their collars. These
    bells, by their constant jingling, gave warning of the approach of
    these long teams on narrow trails. This was necessary because the
    teams were so long and the roads so crooked that the leading pair
    were often entirely out of sight of the driver. ...

    There were several reasons for hauling freight in three wagons (with
    one large team of 20 plus horses/mules) in this manner. ... The
    other advantage was that if they got stuck in the mud they could be
    uncoupled. Then each wagon could be pulled out separately. ...

    Sometimes a wagon would get into such deep mud that the freighter
    could not pull it out even with all his horses. Then he would have
    to wait until some other freighter happened along who would couple
    on to him and pull him out. When this happened it was the custom
    for the man who gave help in this way to take the bells from the
    lead horses of the man in trouble. ... Sometimes a man would get as
    many as four sets of bells on a single trip and lose them all on the
    next trip. These bells often cost as much as twenty-five dollars a
    set and for that reason the loss or gain was great, as was also the
    sorrow or the pride.

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            Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:52 pm (PST)

    Wow, that was awesome, thanks Rachael!

    Brenna

    Duc, sequere, aut de via decede - Lead, follow or get out of the way
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            Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:10 pm (PST)

     > Help the harness neophyte, GRIN!
     >
     > ... Does anyone know the history of bells on harness?
     > (As opposed to bells on period barding and tack of
     > ridden horses, that I have studied.) ...
     >
     > Brenna

    Not quite the same subject, but chariot "bells" have been found in
    chariot burial sites in Europe. The chariot "bells" are bronze
    disks and/or bronze rings that were hung on the linch pins or on
    the chariot pole tip, or from bit check pieces.

    Photographs of these chariot "bells" (rattle pendants) are in
    Piggott's book 1983 book.

    The Earliest Wheeled Transport from the Atlantic Coast to the
    Caspian Sea
    Stuart Piggott, 1983. Thames and Hudson, London.
    ISBN: 0 500 01279 2
    pages 134, 159, 160, 166, 185

    Lady Rachael

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