Pet Peeves - was RE: [Artemisia] Re: [Summits] Re: [cathedral]Comments, regarding latestBoD announcment

[Todd Rich]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Spencer Maschek wrote:

> My statement was not intended as a slam or to "Frost" you or anyone else, 
> merely saying that if you see a problem, don't just point out the problem but 
> offer a way to fix it. Complaining about something makes it worse, not 
> better.

Not necessarily.  Just shouting from the corner "It is WRONG" won't help 
much.  However, complaining can be definately be helpful.  It lets people 
know about a  problem who may not know it exists.  It can also get  other 
people to think about possible solutions.

Complaining can be (In my view) similar to noticing a hole in a bridge 
that people occasionally fall through, and putting up a sign ahead of the 
hole notifying people.  Doesn't fix the hole, but it can help people avoid 
the problem.  And if enough people notice, you might be able to get 
several people to move that large metal plate nearby over the hole to 
cover it up.

(snipped rest of post)
> Vlad
>
>
Oh, and while I'm at it, If you are going to quote the previous e-mail, 
could you PLEASE at least strip out the headers?

(46 lines of headers kept so you know what I'm referring to)

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