[Artemisia] Spammers Deserve Punishment

[Sue Clemenger]

Uhm, guys....we've been through this before with this spammer.  Until such
time as she manages to unsub, or Sir Yumitori (the actual list owner) bans
her from the list, why not just freakin' delete her emails, which are far
rarer than the profane responses they engender, or set your filters to
automatically zap her.  It's certainly less trouble (and consumes less time)
than typing out lengthy screeds against the posts, or having to sort through
various responses to her and posts about her.  She's annoying, but it's a
minor annoyance, and I, for one, have better things to spend my time and
energy and focus on.
--Maire, who was  a moderator on the old Aerie, but can't do anything on
this list, sorry.....


----- Original Message -----
From: "El Hermoso Dormiendo" <ElHermosoDormido+aerie at dogphilosophy.net>
To: "Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list" <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: [Artemisia] Spammers Deserve Punishment


> Let me get this straight...
>
> This spammer is INTENTIONALLY spamming (definitely not somehow so ignorant
as
> to be unaware the unsolicited bulk commercial email is bad - hey it COULD
> happen) and abuses her email account PRECISELY and ONLY for that purpose,
and
> was hired knowingly by the company being spammed on behalf of to send
> unsolicited bulk commercial email to mailing lists...
>
> And, I note, THEY do not include information on how to unsubscribe from
THEIR
> advertisements...as required by federal law as I recall.  (THEY are
sending
> US their advertisements.  "Allowing them to join our mailing list" does
NOT
> constitute solicitation of their advertisements by any means.)
>
> Admittedly, someone would have to double-check the wording of the
"CAN-SPAM"
> act to be sure, but I THINK this spammer meets the terms to be subject to
> criminal sanctions under the act (the lack of inclusion of a way to be
> removed from their mailing list.  After all, all it requires for this
> unrepentent spammer to do is remove "artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org" from
> her list of people they think want to see their noise - there is no reason
> for someone to need to unsubscribe them.  I suspect if this person is a
> careless as it sounds, they will still continue to try to send their spam
to
> our mailing list, and while it'll get bounced, it'll still be taking up
> gallowglass.org's bandwidth and processing time.)
>
> This is abusive and sleazy behavior, plain and simple, and I have NO
patience
> for spammers.  At the very least, these (insert long string of
> uncharacteristically profane, violent, and obscene words, phrases, and
poetic
> images here) should be dragged around each Kingdom's Crown Tourney events
> with their "product" hung around their neck.[1]
>
> As a feeble alternative, alerting abuse at yahoo.com to the situation might
at
> least get the spammers outgoing-spam account cancelled and make them go
> through re-subscribing...and if they do we'll know for sure that they are
> unrepentent and have no intention of stopping their potentially criminal
> behavior.
>
> In any case, I'd make sure to spread the word that nobody should ever give
> these sleaze-freaks any money for their "product".
>
> Interesting that they are apparently in southern california (Caid) but the
> lone server that hosts their website and email addresses seems to be in
the
> Sacramento area...
>
> signed,
> El Hermoso Dormiendo - who's had email since the time of Canter and Seigel
and
> has no sympathy whatsoever for vile spammers.
>
> [1] - hey, it's a perfectly period punishment - this is essentially the
same
> as would be done in period to fraudulent bakers who sold under-weight
loaves
> of bread.
>
> On Friday 31 March 2006 20:42, Syeira wrote:
> > Whoa! I was unubscribed mistakenly, without doing anything myself, when
I
> > mentioned that she wanted to be unsubed. It can be done.
> >
> >   Syeira
> >
> > Lee Barnett <badsquire at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >   This person works for a merchant that films estrella war, she is on
each
> > kingdom list, but doesn't read them. She just hits reply to random
threads
> > and inserts her ad. She does not respond to emails at all. Last year I
> > contacted the owners of the film company. This year, a few days prior to
> > her advertising season, she grabbed a random post and responded with
> > 'unsubscribe please'.
> >
> > So, she tried to respect our wishes... kind of. Unfortunately, word is
that
> > nothing can be done unless she follows the unsub instructions that were
> > sent to her when she first signed up over 3 years ago. Fact is, it's
never
> > going to happen, primarily, since she doesn't read email, she doesn't
know
> > she's still posting here, secondly, can't say as I believe she's the
sort
> > to keep instructions sent to her so long ago.
> >
> > I still don't understand why this list owner can't just block her email
> > from posting. Other lists that I am on can and do certianly do that.
> >
> > Isabeau
> > packing for a nice wet, cold and oh so muddy session of field work in
> > west/central utah this weekend
> >
> > Todd Rich wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, kim fazio wrote:
> > > www.------------------.com
> > > www.------------------.com
> > > www.------------------.com
> > >
> > > cheers!
> >
> > YOU SCUMSUCKING PIG! YOU LECHER OF DOGS!!!
> >
> > Not only do you keep spamming this list but you hijack a post asking for
> > pictures of a beloved and deceased person.
> >
> > I would request that the list admin force unsubscribe the spammer and
ban
> > that address.
> >
> > Also forwarded to yahoo abuse.
> >
> >
> >
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