[Artemisia] For Dicussion - College of Heraldry return in 2000

[Stephanae Baker]

For amusement, I thought I'd bring up an old College Heraldry return  
that I stumbled across in the sca.org/heraldry archives. It seems of  
particular interest to me since it was submitted by a barony in our  
kingdom. Anyway, here goes:

Arn Hold, Barony of. Order name Order of Le Pomme d'Or and badge.  
Purpure, an apple Or.

     Conflict with the Palme d'Or, the award for best film at the  
Cannes Film Festival. As one of the very few international awards  
known in America, we consider it important enough to protect, and  
there is insufficent difference in sounce between Pomme and Palme.

     The badge conflicts with Adelicia Gilwell, An apple Or. There is  
only a single CD for fieldlessness. (01/2000)



First of all, I'd like to say that overall I appreciate the College  
of Heralds for attempting to ensure that when we go to the trouble to  
register our names and devices, they are protected. For example, I  
fully support their protection of Adelicia Gilwell's arms. But, to me  
(a French speaker) the word pomme sounds very unlike the word palme-- 
they have completely different vowel sounds, and there's no l in  
pomme--and when I hear them, they conjure completely different images  
in my head. It's kind of like saying that "The Golden Poem" and "The  
Golden Palm" are the same in English. In addition, I think the French  
speakers who organize the Cannes Film Festival would laugh at this  
protection rather than appreciating it, not because they take their  
intellectual property lightly, but because, they too, would hear  
these words completely differently. I doubt that if they heard "pomme  
d'or," they'd even make a connection in their thoughts to "palme  
d'or." Pomme and palme are everyday words that do NOT sound alike.

So anyway . . . thoughts?

Belladonna