[Artemisia] Why Conrad is a big fat jerk - was 'Reading'

Chuck Heisler Jr. conradvz at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 26 14:13:34 CDT 2007


Oh, I read it dear lady, I just didn't think this was the appropriate venue for it.

Andrea Waddell <aravis227 at hotmail.com> wrote:
  Childhood abuse is everywhere, including in Harry Potter, which is why it came up. We were discussing how a child could survive abuse and still become a fantastic member of society. I would recommend that you actually read the discussion we were having. All the instances of abuse were followed up with how those children overcame the problems they had faced. And about the fact that seeing those instances was inspiring to the rest of us. If you have issue with a conversation about children overcoming amazing obstacles, that is as you wish. Pretending that these cases don't exist or refusing to talk about them simply villifies them and reinforces the shame that a lot of victims of abuse feel. I choose to face that reality and to applaud those who have come from it and still become amazing people. Problems can only be overcome by facing them and working through them. Not by turning your back and refusing to speak about them because it's uncomfortable for you. -Maysun> Date:
 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:52:04 -0700> From: conradvz at yahoo.com> To: artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org> Subject: Re: [Artemisia] Why Conrad is a big fat jerk - was 'Reading'> > Greetings,> > Now I am the crusher of dreams. > > In my defense, I really only complained the the stories of childhood horror should be shared in private, not on the aerie (see my third email of 15:49:58 of July 25, 2007). Like the stories of childhood abuse, I'm not only not interested, but finding them in emails disguised as Harry Potter was more than a little disturbing.> > If that destroys your 'dream' I can only say I'm sorry. Tales of child abuse go a long way towards destroying mine. Not to mention what they might dig up for others.> > CvZ > > Andrea Waddell wrote:> It's sort of > funny that this should come up. You see, I don't normally post on the Aerie, > specifically because I've watched so many people have their ideas or opinions > slammed down. When I was posting about the magic I see in Harry
 Potter, and in > other various children's books, it was reminding me of all the reasons I had > joined the SCA in the beginning. The idea that this was a group of people who > truly was trying to do what was right, simply for the sake of doing right. I > lost my Dream of the SCA somewhere over the past two years, and am trying to get > it back. This random conversation about Harry Potter was, in a way, reminding > me of all the things I saw in the SCA when I first started. All the reasons > that I loved it and enjoyed it. It was a place where all those childhood ideals and beliefs were coming true. You are reminding me of all the reasons I lost > that Dream. The intolerance, the refusal to accept other people's opinions, the > "You shall not do thus because I do not like it" attitude that also comes along > in the SCA. You are, of course, free to view the SCA as you choose, but please remember that everyone else is listening to you when you try to tromp on someone else's
 conversation. As has been pointed out, this list is usually rather quiet except for event announcements. If we were truly overwhelming a period, SCA related conversation I would understand your concern. As it is, this is the first true life I've seen on this list in several weeks. -Maysun > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.> Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.> _______________________________________________> Artemisia mailing list> Artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org> http://lists.gallowglass.org/mailman/listinfo/artemisia
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