[Artemisia] Awards, was Re: Fabric Stores in Loch Salann?

lady petronilla lady_petronilla at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 16 15:09:20 CST 2007


m'Lord Christian,
Your list stated "2) crown + no bowing = Call them your Excellency "
I have one suggestion, anyone with a crown should be respected enough to bow to them.
They have worked hard to receive this honor and deserve our respect.
The Honorable Lady Petronilla 

 
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From: Dan Lind <darthnapster at gmail.com>
To: Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:48:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Artemisia] Awards, was Re: Fabric Stores in Loch Salann?

On 11/16/07, Angela Zentz <allegretza at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Please forgive a relative newbie here...but what exactly is the difference
> between a Grant of Arms and and Award of Arms?  I am guessing that it is an
> important difference.
>
> Allegretza
>


Dear Allegretza,

Thank you so much for asking.  I for one, truly appreciate your desire to
understand.  Our
ranking system is rather complex and is not very period.  By way of answer,
there are essentially four non-landed noble ranks within the SCA.

1
m'Lord/m'Lady
                  no
arms awards
2
Lord/Lady
                    Award
of Arms
3 Honorable Lord/Honorable
Lady                                                    Grant of Arms
4 Sir/Dame/Master/Mistress/Court Baron/Court Baroness/ex-royalty   Patent of
Arms

This becomes much more complex when you add in the landed ranks and try to
figure out who has precedence over who.  I find it's is best to simply be
courteous to everyone.  As a rule of thumb: 1) no crown = call them
Lord/Lady 2) crown + no bowing = Call them your Excellency 3) crown + bowing
= call them your Majesty.  If you are wrong they will probably correct you
politely.

Any person may advance from one level to another in each of three ways:
Chivalry, Arts & Science, and Service.  There are other ways to advance as
well, but these are the core.

If you say someone has an award who does not, that person will likely be
complemented, but those who do have that award might take offence.  For
example, I am a proud member of the Order of the Gryphon's Pride.  If I knew
someone who I felt was unworthy of joining that specific Order being praised
as if he or she was a member of it, I would feel compelled to correct the
person giving the praise.  Luckily, I am not aware of any SCA person who I
would call unworthy of praise.

Thanks again for desiring to know.


m'Lord Christian

-- 
Einarr Håkonson the Christian, GPA
Côte du Ciel
Artemisia
(MKA Dan Lind)
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