[Artemisia] Actual learning ... was 4 Dons

[e busicomp]

I must take exception to this one.  I have always taught beginners  
with the modern parrys and attacks and ripostes I leave out right of  
way and modern footwork.  This tends to give them a basic grasp of  
fencing before getting into period terms and practices.   Once they  
get the modern stuff down,  I start them fencing in the round and  
using the off hand.  Of course when I started teaching rapier we were  
still using modern epees and schlager hadn't been invented yet.

Don Rob. (ducking and parrying)

ps a Leftenant is obviously the exact opposite of a Rightenant


> Don Conchobhar said:
>
> The problem, as I see it, with newer fighters, especially those  
> with Olympic
> style training is twofold.  (1) They think that they are supposed  
> to do a
> give and take, back and forth, one attacks while the other defends,  
> right of
> way to score the point type stuff.  These modern concepts add some  
> convience
> and structure to sport fencing, but, as you said, do not lend  
> themselves
> well to our simulated rapiers (and less so if we had edges, points,  
> and no
> rules or concern for the safety of our opponents and selves).
>
> You're absolutely correct.  I had to unlearn over 40 years of sport  
> fencing (and not entirely successfully as yet) and as a trained  
> foilist it is even worse since the parry-riposte is what that game  
> is all about.  Guillaume as an epeeist had a better feel from his  
> previous training for stop hits and counter time (what stesso tempo  
> is called in the current sport sense) then I did to begin with and  
> he's honed it [dare I say it, yes I will] to a fine point....... 
> (insert groan here).
>
> You're remarks about spectating fencing at high levels is also well  
> taken.  The old German proverb, Mann seiht was mann weiss" applies  
> to this.
>
> YIS, Marten
>
>
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