[Artemisia] A New Discussion - SCA Skills in a Modern Plague

[Caointiarn]

If I remember correctly the whitish haze on grapes that wipes off is a
yeast......

Morgan of Hawksreach

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According to the quickee internet research just compleated there is evidence
confirming that yeast was used for both leavening and brewing in Egypt as
early as 4000 BC. So I just need to find how to get this fungis we refer to
as yeast. Also found that if you make a batch of dough and save some of it
for later bread making and contine doing this you will have sourdough. (I'm
hitting myself for not realizing this before having to read it). There is
also the remains on the bottom of the ale/mead barrel when brewing is done.
So Red, there are a few different ways of getting yeast for your bread. Will
continue my search on this topic.
 
Mairghread
 
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: Redhawk
> Sent: 9/19/2010 6:26:44 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Artemisia] A New Discussion - SCA Skills in a Modern 
> Plague i have my eye on a couple horse drawn implements.  i have mowed hay
the horse dawn way.  thank goodness HL Wulf is a good carpenter because the
pitman arm can break and it's made of wood.  the question is, here in great
falls there isn't much for harness shops.  other materials would have to be
used such as heavy webbed straps.  i do have a treddle sewing machine so
sewing something heavy would be okay.
> i'd like to know how we get yeast for breads... hm... gotta have bread.
what was used back then to make the bread rise?
> Redhawk
> 
> --- On Sun, 9/19/10, Allen Hall <dukealan at q.com> wrote:
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> 
> From: Allen Hall <dukealan at q.com>
> Subject: Re: [Artemisia] A New Discussion - SCA Skills in a Modern 
> Plague
> To: "Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list" 
> <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
> Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 10:54 AM
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> 
> Well, this discussion is moving right along.  Some summarizing...
> 
> Water, as noted by many is a key element.  You can go a while without
food, but not long at all without water.  Our medieval ancestors drank milk,
wine, ale, beer, distilled spirits, but you don't hear water mentioned
often.  You do read about wells being destroyed by opponents however, so
some water was used in some manner.  When I was a kid, a house just down the
road had a hand pump that was cool to play with.  The local water table
_used_ to be about 20 feet down.  The local gravel pits would frequently
fill up with water.  Irrigation pumping seems to have lowered the water
tables locally.  Perhaps without electric irrigation pumps, that water would
rise back to normal levels.
> 
> Osondrea mentioned strength in numbers, but how large are these numbers?
I know that London was one of the largest medieval cities, and it's
population was about 40,000.  Larger cities of Europe were only a little
larger than London.  Realistically, the ability to bring sufficient food and
supplies into such a city is pretty tough.  That would also include taking
out the city's waste/garbage.  Though in a plague situation, waste would be
greatly reduced as recycling, re-using, and composting vegatative matter
would be much more widely employed.
> 
> Windmills used to be common in mundane Artemisian territory.  They
obviously worked or they wouldn't have been there.  How do you construct one
(and maintain it)?  Sounds like some extensive blacksmithing would be
needed.  Where do the blacksmith's get their coal/charcoal?  Does anyone
know how to make charcoal?  Anyone who has driven from Salmon to Idaho Falls
may recall seeing the remains of charcoal kilns east of the road.  Would
anyone care to comment on their operation?
> 
> Our medieval predecessors preserved meats by smoking and salting, who can
tell us about doing that?  How about drying meats (making jerky)?  Once you
slaughter an animal, the fresh meat only last so long (unless you've got a
big crowd of people), and the meat will go bad.  You've only so much time to
do something to preserve that meat for future use.  Who can tell us about
canning meat or other methods of preservation?  Anyone heard of keeping
cooked meat imersed in lard as a preservation method?  How do you make lard?
> 
> Handcarts are seen in medieval illuminations.  The dramatically increase
the amount of "stuff" a person can move.  Let's hear more about making them.
Perhaps a new "side business" could emerge from this conversation!
> 
> So Red, where would you go thieving a horse pulled mower and rake.  Steal
2 of each and bring the extra down to the Uprising site!
> 
> Gardening will quickly cease to use modern chemical aids...so what plants
naturally repel insects, how do you deal with birds raiding your cherry
crop, etc?
> 
> I'd really like to thank everyone who has had comments on this thread.
You've all added some good food for thought, and it's obvious that we have
some smart, experienced folks in this Kingdom!
> 
> Alan
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