[Artemisia] identifying cheaters

[Richard Samul]

Public shaming is contrary to the notions of chivalry, honor, and respect our society was founded on. 

HL Earc

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> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:00 AM, Karen <caointiarn1 at bresnan.net> wrote:
> 
> Then,   maybe we shouldn't just be "watching."     Maybe some of the cheers
> need to turn to jeers, and boos and heckling the ones the crowd can see
> deliberately "bending" the rules . . . .   Public shaming  documentation can
> be found  . . . .
> Caointiarn   
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> This ought to liven things up a bit ;o)  Well done, Your Grace
> 
> Cheaters aside (and yes, that is what they are) I'm a bit tired of those
> running the Tournament(s) announcing at the beginning that cheating will not
> be tolerated and then doing absolutely nothing about it.  Don't bluff, don't
> posture - just do the job as you swore you would when you took up the
> Crowns.
> 
> Either way, everyone - those who are Cheating and those who are just
> watching - knows what sort of behavior is acceptable in this Kingdom.
> 
> Morgan
> Arn Hold
> 
> 
> 
> --
> I'm not clumsy. 
> It is just that the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies and
> the wall gets in the way. 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Duke Alan" <dukealan at q.com>
> To: "Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list" <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 7:06:01 AM
> Subject: [Artemisia] Winning or Just Not Losing?
> 
> Good Morning All,
> 
> Seems like we need some lively discussion to wake up the Aerie.  Excellent!
> Here we go, and the topic is appropriate considering this weekend's
> festivities...
> 
> The SCA claims to be honorable, and is loath to "call shots" for others.
> But what happens when someone refuses to "call shots" as good in a
> tournament?  Please don't pretend this doesn't happen.  We've all seen it
> repeatedly.
> 
> How do we deal with the person who couldn't win, but refused to lose?  So
> far, we've not done much.  Sometimes they get a Crown out of the deal, which
> of course dishonors those who did fight fairly and played the game with
> honor.  Those people far outweigh the Cheaters.
> 
> Oh my, is that too harsh?  But PC aside, what do you call someone who
> participates in a game, yet wants to win and not necessarily following the
> rules to do so?
> 
> I was extremely pleased to watch our last Crown Tourney.  It was clean, and
> the final winner, in fact, was the winner.  Not the guy who refused to lose.
> I would greatly hope that we would draw a line in the sand and say, that is
> the standard that we wil hold to.
> 
> So, how is that done?
> 
> Discuss away!
> 
> Alan
> 
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