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<DIV><SPAN class=272403816-20112003></SPAN><FONT size=2>P<SPAN
class=272403816-20112003>ersonally, I don't like it. I do not like seeing
*any* well known religious symbol used as either an award or a token. (no
matter what the historic usage was) On the other hand, I don't recall
seeing the award token for the Key Cross. What does it look
like?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=272403816-20112003>(By the way, I have *no*
problem with any period religious symbols being used in personal heraldry.
After all, that is meant to represent *you*, and you are not expecting anyone
else to *wear* it.)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=272403816-20112003>Gefjon</SPAN><SPAN
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<TD width="100%"><FONT size=2>I am not sure if I have an opinion about
the "cross as site token" thing.<BR>As for the cross in heraldry... I
believe it is a way for people to flesh out their personas. After all,
many people have Christian personas. I think to say "you can't use a
cross" is foolish, as long as you are talking about individuals. Groups
are another story.<BR><BR>Which brings me to an interesting
question.<BR><BR>How do you all feel about the fact that the Kingdom
Grant Level Arts award is called the Order of the Key Cross (since the
original Sable Keys in Cross was unregisterable)? The key cross is one
heraldic representation of the cross.<BR><BR>Opinions? Not that it will
change things, but I am curious. Feel free to respond privately if you
would rather.<BR><BR>HL Theodora<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--- On Thu
11/20, Wade < scaguy@bresnan.net > wrote:<BR><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 7px; MARGIN-LEFT: 7px; BORDER-LEFT: orange 2px solid"><B>From:
</B>Wade [mailto: scaguy@bresnan.net]<BR><B>To:
</B>artemisia@lists.gallowglass.org<BR><B>Date: </B>Thu, 20 Nov 2003
01:42:36 -0700<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Artemisia] Religion in the SCA
(a new can of worms)<BR><BR>hmm,<BR><BR>> Is a cross medalion
appropriate for a site token?<BR><BR>Then is a cross appropriate for
display in heraldry?<BR>The cross is inherently period for Europeans.
If someone finds offense<BR>because of any period religious symbol
then they are to uptight.<BR>Displaying said sysmbols may or may not
be a statement of faith. What do I<BR>care what they believe or don't.
Displaying is not preaching.<BR>As long as they are not preaching who
cares what the symbol is if it adds to<BR>the flavor and
realism.<BR><BR><BR>Andrew <THE little known>of Doune
Castle<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Artemisia
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list<BR>Artemisia@lists.gallowglass.org<BR>http://lists.gallowglass.org/mailman/listinfo/artemisia<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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