[SCA-AS] My own Small Bell Tent?

rmhowe MMagnusM at bellsouth.net
Tue Apr 6 21:30:11 CDT 2004


Theodora (AKA Rachael) wrote:
 > If I may suggest a wondrous webpage on Medieval Tents...
 > http://www.currentmiddleages.org/tents/
 >
 > This is research done by an SCA member and she has a ton of resources
 >  there.
 >
 > Happy tenting, Thea (HL Theodora of Trebizond Barony of Sentinels'
 > Keep Kingdom of Artemisia)
 >
 > --- On Tue 04/06, Anna Troy < owly3 at yahoo.se > wrote: From: Anna Troy
 >  [mailto: owly3 at yahoo.se] To: artssciences at lists.gallowglass.org
 > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 22:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SCA-AS] My own
 > Small Bell Tent?
 >
 > I quite like the look of Past-Tents Small Bell Tent
 > http://www.past-tents.demon.co.uk/med.htm Seeing as it doesn't look
 > too hard to make I was wondering if anyone on this list has or they
 > know of a site that talks about how to make this model, I've also
 > seen it<br>called a "conical" tent. Anna de Byxe "So many books, so
 > little time. "Anna's Crafts Links Page"
 > http://www21.brinkster.com/annascrafts

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Run by Tanya (Guptill) Clapshaw
tguptill at teleport.com 1/00  probably not current.
TentGuild at Ansteorra.org.
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This is a very chatty high volume tent list.
It has a searchable backlog.
Personally I would log on as read only on web and just search it.
I was on the list for about four years.
It was meant to be apart from the general SCA Tent list and was
created to cover items for camping besides tents - only the whole
tent list slid into it.

There is now another list for woodworkers and furniture makers.
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My personal view on a French Bell Tent is I'd rather just go with
an Anglo-Saxon Geteld and get something with a door in the end as
opposed to the side. The ends are usually rounded as well and it
has a Pi shaped top bar on supports. You can decorate either and
size them up or down.

Getelds - Carolingian Tents too.
http://www.42nd-dimension.com/NFPS/nfps_geteld.html  Anglo-Saxon Geteld
http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/image/getelds.jpg
http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/image/getelds.jpg
http://freespace.virgin.net/peter.james1/Tnt/Tents.html
http://www.greendragon.net/field.html  The Battlefield -Green Dragon
Armoury
You might also want to look around at http://www.regia.org/ for their
tents.

Carolyn Priest-Dorman's sources for researching getelds from a list post:
 > The Utrecht psalter is 9th century Carolingian, and it is positively
 > *filled* with depictions of getelds. Illuminations of the geteld can
 > be found in several manuscripts, especially among the copies and
 > imitations of the Utrecht Psalter.  They span the period between the
 > eighth century and the twelfth.  Here is a list of the manuscripts to
 > which we found reference.
 >
 > The Aelfric Hexateuch:  British Library Cotton Claudius B IV (second
 > quarter eleventh century), folios 50-51, 74-75, 77-78, 80, 99,
 > 156-58, 248
 > Psalter:  British Library Harley 603, folios 44-45, 61, 103
 > The Bury St. Edmunds Psalter:  Vatican City, Biblioteca
 > Apostolica, Vaticana MS Reg. Lat. 12 (second quarter eleventh
 > century), folio 9
 > The Canterbury Psalter:   Trinity College (University of Cambridge).
 > Library. MSS. R. 71.1 (eighth century), folio [not sure; rechecking]
 > The Book of Maccabees from St. Gall: Cod. Periz. F.17, University
 > Library, Leiden (circa 924), folio 22r
 > Vienna Nationalbibliothek 12600 [Suppl. 372], a German Romanesque ms.
 > from the end of the 12th century in der Benediktinerabtei Pruefening
 > (priefling) bei Regensburg ausgefuehrt.
 > The Utrecht Psalter: Cat. Cod. MS. Bibl. Rhenotraiectinae I, Nr. 32
 > Prudentius' Psychomachia, Cambridge, Corpus Christi College MS 23,
 > pt. 1, folio 6 Prudentius'
 > Psychomachia, British Library Cotton Cleopatra C VIII (circa tenth
 > century), Folio 4 Prudentius, Psychomachia, British Library MS
 > Additional 24199, folio 4
 >
 > Here are some bibliographical references we consulted for
 > illuminations of the geteld.
 >
 > _The Canterbury Psalter_, with introduction by M. R. James.  London:
 > The Friends of Canterbury Cathedral/P. Lund, Humphries & Co., Ltd.,
 > 1935.
 >
 > Campbell, James, ed. _The Anglo-Saxons._ Harmondsworth:  Phaidon
 > Press Ltd., 1982.
 >
 > Dewald, E.T.  _The Illustrations of the Utrecht Psalter_.  Princeton:
 > Princeton University Press, 1932.
 >
 > Harrison, Mark.  _The Anglo-Saxon Thegn 449-1066 AD._ Osprey Warrior
 > Series 5.  London: Osprey, 1993.
 >
 > Hermann, Julius Hermann. _Die Deutschen Romanischen Handschriften_.
 > Beschreibendes Verzeichnis der illuminierten Handschriften in
 > Osterreich, Band VIII, Teil II.  Leipzig:  Karl W. Hiersemann, 1926.
 >
 > Nicolle, David.  _The Age of Charlemagne_. Osprey Men-at-Arms Series
 > 150. London: Osprey Publishing Ltd., 1984.
 >
 > Ohlgren, Thomas H.  _Insular and Anglo-Saxon Illuminated Manuscripts:
 > An Iconographic Catalogue c. A.D. 625 to 1100_.  New York /London:
 > Garland Publishing Inc., 1986.
 >
 > Tselos, Dimitri Theodore. _The sources of the Utrecht Psalter
 > miniatures_, 2nd ed. Minneapolis, Minn.: published privately, 1960.

Use Ash for the framing members. High winds tend to break other woods
particularly in Viking A Frames. Stake the things down really well.
At least that is Regia Anglorum's wiser experience in such things.
a Geteld takes three framing members versus 9 for a Viking A Frame.

Magnus.



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