<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On May 30, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Scotty Marshall wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Just took a quick plow through the briar press website, and found discussion of people building their own presses, but nothing in terms of plans themselves..... With that, there is an amazing pile of info there. <BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>On building a wooden press:<BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">Elizabeth Harris (another former Smithsonian Curator, I think) wrote a book on the common press, with a measured scale drawing of the Isaiah Thomas common press at the American Antiquarian Society in Worcester MA <<A href="http://www.americanantiquarian.org">http://www.americanantiquarian.org</A>/>. Distinction: a "common press" typically uses a toggle to gain mechanical advantage, Gutenberg's press reputedly used a wooden screw (no contemporary images of it are known). Earliest representation of a wooden press is from the 1499 "Dance of Death" woodcut by Matthias Huss of Lyon<FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"> </SPAN></FONT>- it is a notoriously inaccurate representation of a press mechanism. </SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Representations of the Gutenberg Press are speculative. The Houston (TX) Museum of Printing History has a reproduction of what they think it looked like:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><<A href="http://www.uh.edu/engines/gutenbergpressfacsimile.jpg">http://www.uh.edu/engines/gutenbergpressfacsimile.jpg</A>></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>See also:</DIV><DIV><<A href="http://www.mainz.de/gutenberg/english/erfindun.htm">http://www.mainz.de/gutenberg/english/erfindun.htm</A>></DIV><DIV><<A href="http://www.thegutenbergpress.com/Facts.html">http://www.thegutenbergpress.com/Facts.html</A>></DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Good to see. I've found a couple of books in the local university library to do with the presses and their evolution, but nothing in terms of type casting. Do you know if the good gentle giving the talk at Pennsic might be willing to reveal his source documents?<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Ask him: His name is Lord Padraig Muadhan (mka Richard Creighton) <<A href="mailto:kalligraphos@hotmail.com">kalligraphos@hotmail.com</A>> I think he may be on this list, but he also runs the "SCA-Print" mail list. Also refer to Stan Nelson <<A href="http://www.rsnrecreations.com">http://www.rsnrecreations.com</A>/>, as mentioned in a previous email. His type casting molds are not cheap, but I'm willing to bet they're historically accurate. </DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> In addition to this, do you know of any engravings that depict a Printery at work, perhaps with a picture of a press?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Jost Amman's "Book of Trades" (1586), commonly available as a Dover Paperback, and there is at least one other, which description escapes me at the moment. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Regards,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>M. Iheronimus</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Varenko/Scotty</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From: Iheronimus Brückner <<A href="mailto:iheronimus@comcast.net">iheronimus@comcast.net</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Reply-To: East Kingdom Stationers Guild <<A href="mailto:ekstationers@lists.gallowglass.org">ekstationers@lists.gallowglass.org</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To: East Kingdom Stationers Guild <<A href="mailto:ekstationers@lists.gallowglass.org">ekstationers@lists.gallowglass.org</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: [EKStationers] Printing presses</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 20:21:57 -0400</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On May 30, 2006, at 1:37 PM, Scotty Marshall wrote:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I love that someone actually knows what I am talking about....only<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>in the SCA..</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Or on one of the letterpress lists...</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">8)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">You might also enjoy the discussion lists at Briar Press <<A href="http:// www.briarpress.org">http:// www.briarpress.org</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">At an rate,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Many thanks for the links and info. I've used a "Rat tail" press in<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>the pass including the hand inking, and as such can relate to what<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>you are saying. I am not sure that the inking process is anywhere<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as tedious as type setting, mais chaqun son gout.</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Personally, I prefer type-setting to distributing. And we get to use<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>rollers these days!</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">That there is a class at Pennsic this year and that finances are<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>seeming as though they will prevent my participation. As for the<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Platen press, I actually have a small 3 1/2 x 5 hand lever powered,<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>and was inches from picking up a gargantuan 18x24 model from a news<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>paper, which had the option of steam/ belt hook up, or foot treadle<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>operation.</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If your idea of a good time is treadling an 18x24, you probably also<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>enjoy long-distance bicycling...</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Finding rollers for the old girl was the deal killer, but now I<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>find there is a guy in Scarborough (near Toronto) who refurbishes<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>rolls, and were I determined again, polytech might have a product<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>for recasting the rolls. The other trouble was finding a good<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>printing ink for non-hydrated presses. I started trying to make my<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>own version, but had crappy luck.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Ohh, there's a good question, any clues on period printing ink?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Chemical analisys from period tomes? Am I geeking out again?</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Basically carbon black and linseed oil. Remember that printing with<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>moveable lead type began in Western Europe, at a time when painters<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>were using oil-based colors (and water-based ink does not stick to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>lead type). Simpler to borrow technology than to invent it.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Regards,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">M. Iheronimus</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Time to go downstairs and watch football, eat meat, and prove how<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>normal I'm not.....</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Varenko/Scotty</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From: Iheronimus Brückner <<A href="mailto:iheronimus@comcast.net">iheronimus@comcast.net</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Reply-To: East Kingdom Stationers Guild<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><<A href="mailto:ekstationers@lists.gallowglass.org">ekstationers@lists.gallowglass.org</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To: East Kingdom Stationers Guild<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><<A href="mailto:ekstationers@lists.gallowglass.org">ekstationers@lists.gallowglass.org</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: [EKStationers] Printing presses Date: Mon, 29 May<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>2006 14:00:17 -0400</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Greetings,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On May 29, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Scotty Marshall wrote:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Just a querie, Has anyone here actually built a printing press,</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I once modified an iron "standing press" to serve as a printing<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>press.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Getting an even impression was not easy, since my pressure was<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>somewhat</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">limited by an iffy brass bearing atop the press. Was able to print<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>a<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>few scrolls</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">with it before deciding it was of more use to me as a standing<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>press...</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">A good web site for printing on the hand press:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><<A href="http://www.letterspace.com/handpress/index.html">http://www.letterspace.com/handpress/index.html</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">cast moveable type, or know offhanded the good source documents<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>for<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>these activities?</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Reproduction hand molds for casting lead type <http://<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>www.rsnrecreations.com/></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">are being made by Stan Nelson, former curator of Printing at the <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Smithsonian.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If all goes well, Lord Padraig Muadhan (Aethelmearc) expects to<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>be<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>teaching hand</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">casting at Pennsic this year, as well as some classes on period<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>type<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>and printing.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Seek him out.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I remember when I helped out at the mackenzie heritage printery <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>that they had a reproduction Gutenburg press, And as a stop gap<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>have about 20 different types of various descriptions and<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>sizes in<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>my collection. I assume that some of the early printed<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>volume<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>reprints available from publishers like Taschen would be<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>a good<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>source for examples of period Font. With that though, I<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>don't know<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>if the type cross sections and keying meathods used<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>in a turn of<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>the century Platen presses would be at all similar<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>to the period<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>approach. Of course it's also possible that I am<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>overthinking.</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Maybe, but it beats under-thinking.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">8)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Platen presses are typically powered presses with automatic<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>inking<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>for making</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">multiple copies. A hand press requires hand inking, which is not<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>as<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>easy as it</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sounds.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Best wishes,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">M. 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