[Artemisia] Thought for discussion-

[Godwin fitzGilbert de Striguil]

> Godwin, your point brings up the ever-popular "if you think you deserve it,
> you probably don't" issue, I'd like to steer away from discussing it in
> first-person and lean heavily towards third-person [he/she deserves it
> because...]
> 

Actually I was thinking that I was leaning heavily towards third person. 
I may not have put it 'paper' accurately. I think I understand where you 
want to go with this, but I think it does have to do with other's 
opinions...that third person's opinion. (IMHO)

For heavy combatants, is Prowess only gauged by how many fights they 
win, or how they won those fights? We do regularly recognize persons for 
the amount of fights they fought. Sir Conrad's comment about Prowess 
only being one third of making a Peer got me to thinking. Yes, I agree 
with that.
Let's look at the scenario that his comment brought to my mind:
A belted fighter in a Crown list. (based on that I 'think' it is 
possible for an non-Knighted fighter to enter a Crown List).
Now then it took aspects of all the Chivalric Virtues to get that person 
there, but at that point in time, it is Prowess that will make that 
person a Peer. (Royal Peer) Probably one of the few scenarios that pure 
Prowess could do that.

For persons whose forte is A&S, same statement; is Prowess only gauged 
by how many A&S events they win? Or how many they enter, or how many 
masterpieces they have achieved?

For persons whose calling is service: is Prowess gauged by how well 
planned their activities are, or how many times they have volunteered to 
do 'X'?

It is almost a catch-22, because we who are not Peers can discuss this 
till we are blue in the face, but until we become Peers, we will 
probably not know just what it takes. I think one of the reasons is, if 
persons in the Peerages were to say: "It takes 'X' to be a Peer", then 
you might have people saying "well, I've done 'X', why am I not a Peer?"
-(conjecture on my part)-

But that's another reason for having several virtues to aspire to. IMHO, 
  the "scores" that one person may achieve in each of the virtues, will 
not be the same "scores" the next person achieves. However they both may 
be made Peers in the same Peerage. (again, conjecture on my part).

Looking back over my scripting here, I see a "quality vs. quantity" 
motif appearing, maybe that's the question I pose back.

Godwin