[Artemisia] College of Arrow's flight , myself and 15 other have a Question.

[Willa - Rose]

Well met, Sir Gregory. You reply below reminds me of what my lord, Maitre
Guillaume, always says... "People vote with their feet".
Yasmeena


On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:05:02 -0700 "Greg Olsen" <GregO at cfdebt.com>
writes:
> > We do not understand way we are not a Shire or a Barony. 
> > We have enough members here to become ether or. This area 
> > is a College rather then a Shire because of the BYU. But 
> > we are not all college students. We have a lot of member 
> > that go north to play with the Barony of Loch Salann, rather 
> > then the Collage. Just because of the reason that I have listed 
> above.
> 
> > The fact is, BYU dose not allow its students to belong to any 
> group 
> > or organization that requires yearly or monthly dues. So what do 
> you 
> > think we should do? Should we break from Arrow's Flight or should 
> > we get them to take the next step up? Some one please help us!! 
> 
> Greetings.
> 
> I was Loch Salann seneschal near the end of Arrow's Flight's canton
> status and Kingdom Seneschal as they became a college, so hopefully 
> I
> can provide a few answers.  First off let me say that the info that
> Tanglwyst and Kynewyn gave was good.
> 
> I won't mince words here.  Arrow's Flight and it's other variants 
> have
> had problems in the past.  While I was seneschal in Loch Salann and
> Arrow's Flight was a Canton reporting was...spotty. And that is 
> being
> extremely generous. Tanglwyst spelled out very well how reporting 
> works
> for groups and what role it plays in getting that group's status
> changed.  The Loch Salann officers and Kingdom officers during that
> period were more than lenient, perhaps too much so. 
> 
> Soon thereafter Arrow's Flight decided as a group that they wanted 
> to
> grow beyond being a Canton.  Since the had been so much recent 
> reporting
> troubles (and a few others) it was mutually agreed by the Kingdom 
> and
> Arrow's Flight that a College was the best option at the time.  
> There
> was a reasonable case made that perhaps some of the reporting 
> troubles
> we due to membership fluctuations caused by students of BYU. As far 
> as I
> remember the idea was to the group members just a stepping stone to
> becoming a shire at some point.
> 
> It's been about a year since I've had any seneschal 
> responsibilities, so
> I honestly have no clue how the Arrow's Flight has been doing
> functionally or reporting wise. Hopefully things are going well. 
> Here is
> my advice to Arrow's Flight for what it's worth. Everyone interested 
> in
> making that group a stronger place should go to the officer's 
> meetings
> and get involved, if they aren't already.  Let the officers know how
> much strength there is in the group and the desire to make it bigger 
> and
> better. That's where becoming a shire truly starts.  
> 
> Groups are just like people and awards.  In a perfect world people 
> are
> not given an award such as a Peerage, they are recognized with an
> accolade for what they already are.  It is extremely difficult for
> groups to try to grow into a status, so make the group a shire in
> strength and action before name.  And then the name will be a piece 
> of
> cake.
> 
> Gregory
> PS - the SCA doesn't "require" membership dues so I can't see how 
> BYU
> would have a problem with participation.  Also "college" status has
> nothing to do with the associated mundane institution's sanctioning 
> of
> the group, if that is a concern.
> 
> 
> 
> 

Mu'allemah (Mistress) Yasmeena bint al Ahlam, OP, Cd'O 
Minister of the Royal Stables of Artemisia
Companion of the Company of St. Anne 
http://lanceofstanne.homestead.com/yasmeena.html
The Interkingdom Mounted Military Company


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