[Artemisia] Sage covers

Fri Nov 11 12:22:38 CST 2005

Sorry your Majesty, but I gotta call it where I see it. :-)
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Subject: Re: [Artemisia] Sage covers


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>>I need to add one more thing to this. To all the good Peers, Royals, and 
>>gentles out there who have sought me out at events and said " I really 
>>love your cover art, keep doing it ". I thank you with all my heart. This 
>>thanks also goes out to all those whom have requested me to depict them on 
>>a Sage cover as well.
>>Lord Aaron di Paladin
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Leach" <badger at rmci.net>
>>To: <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
>>Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 8:32 AM
>>Subject: [Artemisia] Sage covers
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>>I left this list years ago, because of this sort of thing. People talking 
>>ill about another member, or that members contributions. I find it very 
>>distasteful, and very unpeer like. I have read the previous posts, and I 
>>feel that I must defend myself and my Lady Freydis against this.
>>On the subject of rejected covers. What ones would this be? No covers have 
>>been rejected. There was one instance where I did talk to someone over the 
>>phone about this topic, and this person wanted to change the logo's on the 
>>Sage cover. I told this person that we would love to receive their art 
>>work, but changing the logo wasn't allowed. This is due to the fact that 
>>Society likes the logo to remain consistent, and changing that is a real 
>>pain. I did tell this person to please send in their work, but to please 
>>not mess with the logo's. If they took this as a rejection, I'm sorry that 
>>they misunderstood the conversation.
>>Now on the topic of my cover art. For two years I have been doing Sage 
>>covers with no complaint. I do enjoy doing them and serving my kingdom. As 
>>of this date there have been two pieces of artwork submitted, and two 
>>photo covers. That's it folks.
>>The women I draw are offensive and portrayed in a demeaning manner, I 
>>read. What cover would this be exactly? Novembers cover? Why, because she 
>>is showing a little shoulder and cleavage? OH MY!!! Lets get real here. I 
>>see that much skin, and more at SCA events. Are you going to run around 
>>covering all these ladies showing a little skin up? You see way more skin 
>>than I show in a Victoria's Secret commercial shown in prime time hours on 
>>local broadcast stations. If the small amount of skin that I show offends 
>>you, I would have to say, grow up.
>>My work looks comic booky/ fantasy I read. Well this one is a no brainer. 
>>I work as a comic book artist in the mundane world. This means I work 
>>between 12 and up to 20 hours a day doing comic book art when I'm on 
>>deadline. You will get pretty good at anything if you put that much time 
>>into it on a daily basis like I do. I would also like to point out that 
>>any drawing rendered in the " pen and ink " method looks like comic book 
>>art. That's because it's the same method. If you go and study what the SCA 
>>calls late period art, you will find a lot of artist drawing figures much 
>>the same way that I do. This time period for artist is referred to as The 
>>Universal Man, The Figure of Passion 1400 -1600. Examples can be found in 
>>Vesalius' De Fabrica 1538, and in the Sistine Ceiling, Michaelangelo 
>>1475 - 1564. The SCA does count these dates as being period. The funny 
>>thing here is, at no time have I claimed my cover art to be period. Also, 
>>on the subject of period work, photographs are not period. I find it odd 
>>that the compliant is my work needing to be period, but yet you will allow 
>>photo covers which are not period in any way. There are also no 
>>restrictions for the art work on a Kingdom newsletter to be period. It 
>>just needs to have the figures dressed in period looking garb and/ or 
>>armor. I think I've kept to that pretty well. Also I make sure that my 
>>cover art for the Sage meets the standards for the Comics Code Authority 
>>in 1960. This means that the art is suitable for publication in an all 
>>ages comic book published between 1960 and 1970. This means a six year old 
>>could buy this comic book in a store, because it met the Federal Guide 
>>Lines. The Code is much more loose today. Oh and if you think comic books 
>>weren't drawn in as much detail in the 60's as I draw, go look at the work 
>>that was done by Neal Adams in the 60's. That mans work back then still 
>>blows anything I have ever done right out of the water.
>>The subject matter is inappropriate for the SAC, I read. Why, because I've 
>>used a mythical being from time to time? Are we not recreating a society 
>>that did indeed believe in Vampires, Werewolves, Witches, and other 
>>mythical beings? Most people back then believed with out a doubt that 
>>Saint George actually killed a Dragon. There is a lot of art work out 
>>there, from period times, depicting this. They also believed in Arthur and 
>>all the magical things that went along with that story as being true.
>>I find it odd that two years ago when I issued a challenge to the populace 
>>to send in cover art, no one did anything. Now that someone has jumped up 
>>to rid the kingdom of the vile and evil Lord Aaron di Paladins cover art, 
>>you all join that fight with such vigor. Or is it more than that? Is it 
>>lets just get rid of that stinking Roman once and for all kind of witch 
>>hunt? That's what this looks like to me, a witch hunt. Well I guess 
>>someone will pipe off with " witch hunts are period " but that still 
>>doesn't make it right.
>>Have I been insulted and offended by these complaints? You bet I have. 
>>This complaint was taken to the King and Queen, and the Kingdom Seneschal 
>>before Freydis or I ever heard about it. I find it most unpeer like to sit 
>>and talk ill behind someone's back for a long period of time, while 
>>lacking the integrity to go talk to the person face to face. To late now, 
>>so why bother. Is this what being a peer means? To sit and backstab 
>>another person with other people? That's not what I thought being a peer 
>>was all about. It is also not what I thought wearing a Crown of any type 
>>was all about. I guess I could be wrong in what I thought it really meant 
>>to be a peer and to wear a crown. I would like to close by thanking Her 
>>Grace Caryn, Lord Godwin, and Lady Auriela ( sp* sorry ) for defending me 
>>on this subject. I would also like to add that it was a great day of joy 
>>and honor when their Graces Sean and Caryn awarded me with the Griffin's 
>>Heart for my cover art. I am still humbled by that act to this day.
>>Aaron di Paladin
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