[Artemisia] Comments regarding latest BoD announcment

[Dan S.]

Greetings,

With respect m'lady, you may not have been reading closely enough.

The proposed languages says that not 'if a person ahs broken the law' it 
says all that's necessary is an Investigation.

I don't know you, but I could have an investigation started on you just by 
dropping an anonymous tip about you. Bang, you are now under investigation 
and subject to sanction.

Actually it doesn't even say that. All that is required is:

"...or when an individual's behavior or actions negatively affect the
Society."

That is a pretty low bar. Frankly sanctions like this have been abused in 
the past and with this language it's even easier for people at the corporate 
level to willfully or be tricked into acting to further some unsavory 
personal agendas.

If someone is charged with Child molestation by a mundane court, then yes, 
temporarily sanction them until the verdict comes in.

But that is not what this new clause in the Corpora says at the moment.

In Service,

Sir Daniel








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> My first question to you would be, are you just paranoid, or insecure. 
> Upon reading this it sounds like it is not a bad idea, (and I have noo 
> intentions on ever being apart of the BOD)  as it is saying that peolple 
> that should probably be sanctioned due to restrictions cause by the 
> breaking of Mundane laws, now can be without the headache of excessive, 
> and redundant paperwork throughout the many reigns that a mundane court of 
> law can take.  For example, some who has been caught under the clause of 
> Lewd and Lacivious behavior (meaning bad sexual things to others, just so 
> you get it) and is not allowed by Mundane law to participate anywhere that 
> there might be children around can now be banished till such time as the 
> court system has decided whether or not that person is a threat to society 
> in general.  Now I for one would rest a lot easier knowing that someone 
> like that can be restricted from activities that could cause potential 
> harm to children, either ones under my care or friends I know that have 
> little ones.  It is merely stating that should someone break mundane law 
> and could be dealing with the Mundane court system (which could take up to 
> 2 years pending on the severity and how backed up the  Mundane court 
> system is) that the royalty that may have imposed a temp banishment does 
> not have to reinstate the paperwork and explain it to the new incoming 
> royalty and they don't have to REFILE the paperwork that was already done. 
> It is saying that breaking Mundane laws that get you in trouble is 
> punishable by resctricted access to the SCA.  We in the "society" as a 
> whole don't want to explain to our friends that "yes this is a family 
> based organization.  Oh, no you don't really have to worry about that guy, 
> he's harmless and as soon as he is cleared of his rape charge he won't 
> have his pic plastered everywhere.  And that guy who went to jail for 
> Drugs is safe now too, he spent some time in prison and hasn't been caught 
> since.  However if you want some he can hook you up."  This way we can 
> call it a family organization with little to worry about new people 
> bringing their kids into a safe environment.
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>
> Vlad's Lady
> Artemesia
>
>>
>>Think about it.
>>
>>They have been handing out about 5 R&D's and sanctions per meeting,
>>sometimes as high as 8, sometimes just 1 or 2. There have probably been 
>>over
>>100 sanctions and R&D's, maybe even 200+ for all I know.
>>
>>EVERY single one was unanimous?
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>>What a coincidence.
>>
>>Society Seneschals have begun investigations with the statement 'What are 
>>we
>>going to do about that little bastard' and yet still they cling to the
>>fiction that they are 100% impartial and never once have sent on an R&D or
>>Sanction to the BoD that the accused was not 100% guilty.
>>
>>Probably the vast majority deserved it, but there is no way that not even
>>ONE BoD member has ever said 'I dissent' when it came time to vote.
>>
>>And let's not forget, the Society Seneschal is not only hand picked by the
>>BoD, they are nearly always former or future members of the BoD as well.
>>
>>So, what is a better solution?
>>
>>There should be a fast track Sanction applied by the Society Seneschal 
>>ONLY
>>when someone has been CHARGED with a serious mundane Crime that affects 
>>the
>>Society.
>>
>>That's it. No loopholes allowing for personal agendas.
>>
>>But that won't happen. We have no check on the Corporation, no way to
>>influence the make up of the BoD. Mark my words, they will go ahead and do
>>whatever they want.
>>
>>Someday I'll be executively sanctioned I'm sure.
>>
>>Dissent is not tolerated by the BoD.
>>
>>In Service,
>>
>>Sir Daniel-An Tir
>>(mka Dan Solum membership # 39372)
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