[Artemisia] Comments regarding latest BoD announcment

Wed Mar 29 09:44:14 CST 2006

all,
Having just read the Society's release on this subject rather than the one 
posted on this forum, I have come to the conclusion that 1. It was a well 
thought out decision that something along these lines needs to be 
implemented; 2. that it in no way was or is meant to be a policing action on 
local or kingdom groups; 3. it is meant to be a bolster and a convenience 
for the Crowns, Seneschals, and Event Stewards.
In reading the actual posting and wording without any cuts or additions it 
reads for this to be a shortened version of the powers that already are in 
effect. that it cannot take effect without the input of people locally 
involved, and that it is for a definite period of time. It is meant to take 
the amount of paperwork that a crown, seneschal, and event steward and many 
others involved in a banishment must due in the course of a banishment 
extending over several reigns. In addition it provides for severe penalties 
for anyone who issues such a banishment without due course. i.e. the S.S. 
banishes someone because "he said, she said, he called me a poo poo head and 
I want them banished." the S.S. can then be sanctioned, removed from office, 
and banished by the Society.

I think that people are looking at this through eyes of fear rather than 
through the spirit and wording in which it was given. Let's all take a more 
open mind on what was actually posted by the BoD and the terms in which it 
would actually apply to us. This action is meant to help the powers that be 
in a kingdom not take the powers from them. It not a police action, it is 
not meant that only the S.S. now can issue R&Ds, In fact I sincerely doubt 
that the S.S. will issue many at all as the strictures and checks and 
balances that are being implemented with this.

The somewhat verbose,
"The Axe was a great tool for opening minds"
Vlad

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>If I may backtrack on this a bit (not changing my post, just going back in
>the posts so far), can anyone explain to me how the Society Seneschal, who
>lives (if memory serves) in California, can take "immediate action"
>regarding someone (JUST AN EXAMPLE) who is providing alcohol to minors at 
>an
>event in Artemisia?  Unless the Society Seneschal is volunteering to be on
>24/7 call for problems from anywhere, and pay the collect call fees from 
>the
>camp pay phone because cell phones don't have signal there, there is no 
>more
>"rapid response" in this than there is in the current system- the local
>Seneschal, event Steward, Crown, or (in a pinch) nearest Knight tells the
>problem person to hit the bricks, and addresses it formally ASAP.  We have
>site security at big events partially for this reason, and at least in
>Artemisia we have no shortage of individuals who will step up and say "the
>event steward said you have to leave, do so, now."  I can't see that the
>rest of the Known World is lacking similar folks.  Bear in mind that our
>functions are, in essence, "members only" functions, in places we rent.  We
>have the right to tell people to go away, and call on whatever authority is
>necessary to back it up.
>
>And dear Lady Ealusaid, if someone told you "we have this wonderful new
>invention, it will cut travel time by 3/4, but it will kill 50,000 people
>every year" would you think it was wonderful, or that the person was 
>insane?
>
>Let us perhaps agree that analogies do not fit this situation, and address
>it in terms that will actually apply.  Yes, an accused child molester was 
>at
>events in the Middle Kingdom, an accused rapist was at events in the East
>hitting on women, and these are the things that *this* proposal is designed
>to address.  I also know for a fact that an accused child abuser and rapist
>attends events in Artemisia regularly, and that none of those accusations
>has resulted in even one police questioning.  So, is it better to follow 
>the
>path of "innocent until proven guilty, but keep an eye on him", which was
>what happened here, or "get rid of him until he proves his innocence", 
>which
>is what I see in this proposal.
>
>Morgan Blaidd Du
>Just me, no one else
>
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