[Artemisia] NMS and Site Fees

[Freydis the Good]

Well asked Lord John.  :-)

So... here is MY Opinion said with kindness and BIG SMILES:

Age?  I would LIKE it if the age were set at 16.

Why?  I feel it is when the majority are mature enough to participate
without squirming in their chair and give 110% of their attention.
Not that I haven't seen maturity from younger kids, all ARE different,
it just seems to be the age they can "do" things on their own,
participate in classes, or what-not without having to have an
attached-at-the-hip "parental unit".  (I've got three years to go
until I feel I'm free & clear to sever that attachment)  :-)

SPECIAL NOTE HERE:  I can agree with an extra charge for youth if the
Event is purchasing items for a specific class, but I would *think*
that would only apply if the child signs up for that class.

So now what am I going to do about it?  Well, I'm gonna write a POLITE
and KIND letter to Society and let them know this is my opinion and
ask if we could maybe get some more definition on this particular
subject.  Ya know, one of those "Rock the Vote" kinda things.  :-)

I never meant to start anything, opinions were asked for, I simply
gave mine, yada, yada, yada.  :-)


SMILES!!!
Freydis







On 5/19/06, JD Gibson <scjd at poboxes.com> wrote:
> The Society lists the NMS as follows:
> At the July 20, 2002 quarterly meeting, after several months of collecting
> comments from the membership, the Board of Directors instituted a nonmember
> surcharge of $3 on admission to events. The Board directed the Vice
> President of Corporate Operations, Society Seneschal, and Society Exchequer,
> and the appropriate Kingdom officers to establish implementation
> proceedures. After three months of study, the SCA's officers presented the
> following guidelines for NMS implementation.
>
> How the NMS applies:
>
> (1) The NMS will apply to events which meet the requirements defined in
> Corpora section II.C., "...Society events for which a full announcement
> including date, time, and place has been published in advance in the
> appropriate corporate publication;" and for which a fee or required donation
> to attend the event is charged.
>
> (2) The NMS will not be collected if there is no fee or required donation to
> attend the event.
>
> (3) The NMS will not be collected for minors for whom there is a discounted
> event fee.
>
> (4) The NMS will not be collected for any adult for whom an entry fee or
> required donation is not collected, even if others are required to pay at
> the same event.
> -------------
> Facts:
> 1 Rules out Fighter Practices and other such non "organized" meetings,
> 2 takes Demos out of the pot.
> 3 quite simply states a NMS will NOT be collected for minors where there is
> a different fee, IE Minors would pay the NMS if the Autocrat does not choose
> to make a seperate price for minors.  It also does not anywhere define age
> of minor, just that if a discount is given for an age group, the discounted
> site fee becomes exempt from the NMS.
> 4 rules out charging the NMS to anyone who has a site fee waived. (Again a
> choice of the group, say how at smaller day events we often waive a
> firsttimers site fee.)
> None of the above changes or modifies the process of a group giving their
> own "discount for members".
>
>
> OK on the age thing.  Depending on where you sit, a person is considered a
> minor in one of an assortment of conditions.  Those who may not drink
> alcohol, those who are able to represent themselves legally, those old
> enough to fight under current SCA rules, or so on.  This definition is left
> for the groups and autocrats to decide, and when they go the wrong way on a
> choice, they hear it and don't do such things again.  For the most part, fee
> structure and such are discussed at Business meetings, and a minimum must be
> approved by the local scenischal.  For the most part we all follow a pack
> mentality going on the addage of what is X Y & Z groups doing, we will do
> that.  I can't say I find this a bad way, it leaves the power to the people,
> and as this conversation has brought up, something anyone who runs events
> will keep in mind when making the age breakdowns and prices.  I have noticed
> no-one has mentioned anythign about how as a group we do not charge for
> children 5 and under, Which I think as a group we all have decided is a very
> good point to not charge due to limited activities, and the time it takes
> from the Adults day.
>
> There is no use arguing what the NMS rules are and are not, the real
> question I think that needs to be discussed is what age should we consider
> the low end of the normal fee structure, and what age should get the
> discount.  I do ask those who respond site reasons for why they choose one
> age or another, as I hope to learn more from my friends and the populious so
> I can make better choices in the future.  Isn't however that what it is all
> about, trying something, evaluating the reaction and maintaining or changing
> based on that reaction?
>
> Lord John Gilson, HUH?
> Locksmith, Baroness's Musketeer,
> Baronial Rapier Marshal and Web Minister, etc.
> It's coming,Uprising XX!(www.uprisingwar.org)
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