[Artemisia] Question(s) re risk from system errors;
Other positive steps
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Wed Apr 18 16:27:39 CDT 2007
In a message dated 4/17/2007 9:51:11 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
artemisia-request at lists.gallowglass.org [Gareth] writes:
>> unless there is a way to know why the fail status occured.
Exactly.
However, more is needed than simply a way to know why the "fail" status
occurred.
Even in cases where someone actually has nothing on their record, and has
done nothing that might cause them to fear a background check, the system WILL,
on occasion, malfunction somehow, and produce a "fail" status for this
person, in error, anyway (...whether due to tech error, human error, the
never-ending side-effects of ID theft, or whatever -- please see my earlier post for
examples and clarification of this concern).
These kinds of non-human-based systems tend to breed major bureaucratic
nightmares for actual human beings, due to the nature of the "corporate/legal
machine" aspect to which others have recently alluded. And being "innocent"
doesn't help, when you then have to spend eons and/or $Ks fixing the problem,
through no fault of your own, all too often with no recourse for restitution.
My question is: Will the SCA, and whoever the outside contractor is, be able
to ensure there's a speedy, free, and non-insanity-inducing way to FIX the
resulting mess, WHEN this happens, without it eating a big chunk out of
everyone's lives involved? This (and the perils of not addressing it -- again, see
previous post) is what's setting off alarm bells for me.
(And after the previous mention of the possibility of libel-related
problems, it occurs to me that libel accusations, or something of that nature, by the
person whose good name is sullied by the "system," could also result from
false "fails." Is this also a risk for the SCA?)
The first step in helping with this is, indeed, having a way to know why the
"fail" status occurred. But there also needs to be a sane, speedy, free
*correction* (not "appeal") process, for when errors do occur.
In summary:
Background checks = hoorah!
Implementation = much risk in instances of false 'fail' status; can this
risk be avoided; and if so, perhaps someone could please enlighten us as to how
it's being effectively addressed, so we can run kids activities and/or
volunteer for them without fear of incurring exorbitant personal or Society costs
when the inevitable system errors do occur...
(Dumb rookie question: Do the folks who are setting up the process get any
input from lists like this one, or should these concerns be sent separately to
the address that someone mentioned in an earlier message?)
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A slightly different subject: someone mentioned the freeform nature of kids'
activities in the SCA... this does contrast with some other groups (not to
say that's a bad thing)...
With Girl Scouts, for any event, the kids have to have a release form.
Larger scale events they have to be signed in and out when their parent drops them
off and picks them up, and the perimeters of the property are scouted by
participating adults to prevent/intercept wanderers, whether in or out. The
girls also always go in pairs -- you always have to do things with your "buddy,"
including going to the restroom, getting something from your backpack, etc.
In most kids programs I've run across, they also avoid problems by requiring
two adults to be present at meetings.
However, as others have mentioned, most of these precautions, including
background checks, do not make children safe. They're only a part. Parents (and
kids, to the degree they're able) have to be wise and use common sense, and
understand the need for "due diligence" on their own parts, as well.
In response to the "how do we really fix the problem" question, a few
possible additions:
(1) Educational endeavors (handouts at check-in, classes, articles,
whatever) to make people more aware of the risks and therefore, one might hope,
safer, due to their personal choices;
(2) Start/encourage a "buddy system" as mentioned above, for SCA kids.
(3) During a local Girl Scouts "Harry Potter" day camp a couple of years
ago, the girls were divided into "houses" and their houses got points for the
good deeds, fine behavior, etc., of the individual girls, and were docked for
the opposite. At the end, the winning "house" had some sort of recognition.
This was used by the adults, in part, to reward girls "caught" ;-) following
the safety rules. Some of the more responsible older kids were enlisted as
"prefects" for each house (as in the books), and helped with this as well. This
was fun for the kids, and seems like something that could be adapted to the
SCA environment.
(4) We've also toyed with the idea, in Arrows' Flight, of adding some sort
of visual identifiers to our Shire's youngsters (seems like someone suggested
using henna to inscribe "Please return to Arrows' Flight" on their foreheads!
;-) ). We never actually got so far as to devise a real plan :-) , but some
sort of color coding or something (we used colored paint, on t-shirts the
kids decorated themselves, to ID and sort the Girl Scouts' Harry Potter houses
quickly) could help supervising adults (and other event participants, as well)
to steer unfamiliar kids toward the places they're supposed to be, if they
stray...
Some thoughts, anyway... :-)
CJ
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