[Artemisia] Judging Cordials

[Richard & Florence Evans]

Thank you. I just knew I had to have misunderstood.  Let me look around. 
You know how it is with documentation: You accidentally find some 
interesting observation, neglect to record or file it, then it takes weeks 
to find it again when you are looking for it deliberatly.  I'll let you 
know...

Ryryd
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <machay at xmission.com>
To: <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Artemisia] Judging Cordials


> I'm not asking about what individual physicians may have recorded but 
> rather what documentation exists from 600 to 1600 ce that indicates 
> physicians considered clarity an important factor in the efficacy of their 
> medications. Such evidence might be from letters or poetry or plays or 
> .... Perhaps Lady Constance de la Rose has some observations to share, 
> given her achievement a year ago at Estrella War in creating period 
> methelin (probably mangled the spelling). I seem to recall her extensive 
> documentation addressed the issue at least of taste, if not clarity.
>
> Luveday de Saleford (contemplating how difficult it is to express exactly 
> what one means using the written medium alone)
>
>
> Quoting Richard & Florence Evans <rcfaevans at Comcast.net>:
>
>> The material I am referencing belongs to the Honorable Lord Michel von 
>> Schonsee, Deputy Guildmaster of the Brewers Guild of the Kingdom of 
>> Atlantia.  Michel was my mentor in the area of brewing.  I can certainly 
>> contact him for references.
>>
>> But, perhaps I have misunderstood the question.  Are you asking for 
>> evidence that Medieval Doctors, the most literate and educated scientists 
>> of the period, wrote down their observations and hypotheses?  This seems 
>> to imply that the entire medical community, for 1200 years, taught and 
>> communicated from memory and anecdote.  As I said, I may have 
>> misunderstood...
>>
>> Ryryd
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <machay at xmission.com>
>> To: <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Artemisia] Judging Cordials
>>
>>
>>> So where's the evidence/documentation on what doctors in period 
>>> believed?
>>>
>>> Luveday de Saleford
>>> (looking around for cover because she actually has never before thought 
>>> about cordials and judging them)
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting rcfaevans at comcast.net:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> Most doctors in Period were fully aware that most of their powders, 
>>>> tinctures, cordials and such did nothing.  But, these same doctors did 
>>>> understand what is now refered to as the 'Placebo Effect'.  If a 
>>>> patient believed that they were getting a medicine, then they might get 
>>>> better thinking so.  Doctors understood that if you gave a patient some 
>>>> sweet-tasting, muddy colored draught, the patient wouldn't believe in 
>>>> it. But, if you gave the patient something that tasted horrible but was 
>>>> clear and clean, the patient would believe in it.  Thus, clarity is a 
>>>> judging factor.
>>>>
>>>> (There must be an artisan out there somewhere with an opinion!!!!!)
>>>>
>>>> Ryryd
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>>
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