[Artemisia] the dreaded and horrible circlets...

[Raven DuLoche]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: artemisia-bounces at lists.gallowglass.org [mailto:artemisia-
> bounces at lists.gallowglass.org] On Behalf Of John and Julie Neil
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:40 PM
> To: Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Artemisia] the dreaded and horrible circlets...
> 
> Greetings all
> You know I really didn't understand all this top posting / bottom posting
> thing.  I did a little looking and I think I might have figured it out.
> But not sure what the prob is though.  It seems to me that if you look on
> an Re and you can look below for one of the first posts that catches you
> up a little without going through all the posts. But as you know I don't
> post much and so I might top post now and again.   So with how often I do
> I probably don't piss to many people off.
> If I do ........ sorry.
> Sir Thomas
> ps.
> If you would like to enlighten me more on this or anything else I just
> don't get.  They say I am easy to talk to (or write to) lol
> 
> 
> yumitori <yumitori at gmail.com> wrote: On Jan 19, 2008 9:11 PM, S CLEMENGER
> wrote:
> > Gee, maybe it's time you put the reminder out on a monthly basis, or put
> it on the list webpage, if it bothers you badly enough to provoke
> irritation.
> > --Maire, perfectly capable of top-posting AND snipping, and who, oddly
> enough, reads things top to bottom, and has sent emails at work that way
> for going on 12 years with no complaints, and ditto most of the rest of
> the various lists she's on...with one exception, and the moderator
> *reminds* folks about it without feeling the need to be "less tolerant"
> 
>  Okay, if you want to take a general post personally, I'll
> respond to you in kind. In the future, if you have a personal
> disagreement with another list member you might consider using e-mail
> instead. Under the circumstances, this time I'll reply to your public
> post instead...
> 
> Mistress Maire, please stop top-posting. What works in personal
> one-on-one correspondence does not work on mailing lists, as anyone
> who has been active on the 'internets' for over a decade should know
> perfectly well.
> 
> While many moderators have given up the fight over proper netiquette
> (to quote one individual "Today, most people just tolerate the twits
> who top-post...), occasionally there are some of us who remember why
> the guidelines for proper behavior were created in the first place and
> feel it still has a place in this post-blog, post-twitter world. This
> should come as no great surprise to you, given that I have made these
> requests in the past on this very list and as a long-time member
> surely you have seen my 'complaints' here.
> 
> If you have any questions regarding these rules, I refer you to the
> numerous discussions on the subject. To speed your search, please
> consider any of the top results when you enter 'netiquette top
> posting' in most any search engine. For example, try Google -
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=netiquette+top+posti
> ng&btnG=Search
> 
> Enjoy your research.
> 
> --
> Ron/yumitori
> List owner, Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list

Hhmmm, so I guess I've been doing it wrong all this time.  I find bottom
posting to be very confusing and I hate having to scroll all the way down a
huge email to get the message the sender is .. um sending.  It's far easier
and quicker for me to get that with a top post, and when I'm replying to a
post I always trim out what isn't necessary to make it easily understood
without being cumbersome.  This email at this point is quite long.  But if
that's not proper netiquette I'll try to remember to use a bottom post.
But.... maybe some advice on this would be in order.  Are we really supposed
to keep the entire email intact?  I get really frustrated by huge long
emails that take me forever....well never mind, I think I already stated
that.  So as an example, for this particular post, do I keep it in tact?  Or
do I only keep Sir Thomas's portion and reply to that.  I'm not trying to be
argumentative here; this is a legit question because I really don't know.

Raven DuLoche
Confused from Seattle