[Artemisia] Reply to Morgan's Original Question
Christy Lewis
lady_ofdance at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 21 22:26:44 CDT 2009
With all due respect your Grace,this sounds similar to the process in which one becomes an officer to their local shire or barony. The only difference I see is the level on which the responsibility lies, rather than just making a report they must gather them as well. Simple enough for me.
Lady Ealusaid
> From: dukealan at q.com
> To: artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:02:50 +0000
> Subject: [Artemisia] Reply to Morgan's Original Question
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> I sent the following to someone who had asked me about Morgan's question. Here it is, you can contact me _privately_ if you have further questions.
>
> First of all, read Kingdom Law and Corpora. Kingdom Law has very good
> job descriptions, Corpora is the ground rules for the SCA "Game". My
> replies in red.
>
> Now, on to Morgan's original question: "Kingdom
> Officers, when your Warrant/time in office is coming to an end, say 3
> months prior to the Warrant's expiration, if you want to continue in
> the office, what do you do?
>
> Typically,
> the Officer will know well ahead of Morgan's 3 month suggestion,
> whether they want to stay on or not. If they wish to step down, they
> probably will have made that known on something of the order of 6
> months ahead of time. Usually they will inform the Crown and Seneschal
> of the fact. In cases where they are a deputy to a great office,
> they'll let that person know.
>
> If that person wishes to stay on,
> they typically let the Crown and their Society counterpart know that.
> If the Crown or Society counterpart wants to let them continue, that's
> pretty much about that. However, if the Crown or Society counterpart,
> for whatever reason, wish to let the officers warrant expire, and them
> step down, then that will be communicated to the officer.
>
> Realistically, given our severe lack of officer candidates, this is extremely uncommon.
>
> Do
> you simply privately ask the Crown and your Society superior to renew
> your Warrant, or do you publish/announce that your Warrant is ending,
> that you would like to continue, and that you welcome/request input
> from the Populace, to see if someone else is interested in stepping up,
> or if someone has an issue with you continuing in the office?
>
> This
> would depend on the officer. However, I believe it is completely
> insane to solicit comments about their renewal. There are ALWAYS
> someone who is a gadfly or has an agenda, and will have negative
> comments.
>
> If someone is interested in stepping up, they should
> notify the Crown, Seneschale and the Officer that they are interested in
> taking the office. This should be done well ahead of time. Then the
> person can spend some time being the primary person's deputy and learn
> the job.
>
> Someone who wishes to take over a job, but has no
> experience, wishes to get no prior experience as a deputy, etc,
> probably would not be selected by a reasonable Crown or Society
> Counterpart. Stepping directly up into a Kingdom office, with no prior
> experience, is a disaster in the making. It's happened, and
> experience, across the known world has shown what a really, really poor
> idea it is.
>
> What do our various Governing Documents, i.e. Corpora, Kingdom Law, etc., say regarding the end of a Warrant period?
>
> To the
> best of my knowledge (without doing the research), there are no specific rules about how this is
> done. The rules do talk about warrants being 2 years. It is a widely
> accepted practice for Officers to stay on for a year, or even a
> complete second warrant term. That is what I am just completing.
>
> For
> example, in my case, at the end of my 1st warrant period, there was NO
> ONE who had expressed any interest. I was still enjoying the job,
> doing a adequate enough job that the Crown and the Society Earl Marshal
> were more than happy to renew me. Then I started soliciting a
> successor. I hit up the Knights and let them know that I would be
> stepping down in Dec. 2009, and that it would be MUCH better if a
> knight were to take over the office. We have had a non-belt Earl Marshal, and other Kingdoms have as well. But truthfully, they run into "barriers" that make them less than effective on a Societal level. Not saying it's right, just saying it's so.
>
> Do any of our Kingdom Offices have a Warrant that runs longer than 2 years?"
>
> The
> short answer is all Kingdom Warrants are 2 years. As I said above, in
> many cases Officers have extended for a year, and several others for a
> full second 2 years. In a couple of cases, Officers got "stuck" in
> jobs longer than 4 years. Not a good situation, and it burned them out.
>
> I
> hope this help explains how the system has worked, and continues to
> work (as I have seen it and experienced it, over a long time and over multiple Kingdoms). It has a good foundation, but allows for enough flexibility to work in the real world of people.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
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