[Artemisia] service animals at SCA events

Fri Mar 18 09:09:49 CDT 2011

Lord Kveldulf,
I feel fortunate that Baroness Gefjon brought this topic up. She was doing her 
research on her up and coming fiber fest in Hamilton and since it is such good 
info she thought she would share with this list.
Now is a good time to bring this issue up since summer camping events are about 
to start.  I can say, your dog, weather service, therapy or pet is very welcomed 
at our Dragons Tear Site.  It is pet friendly.  Just if you can pick up the poo. 
Or ask one of us to give you some help.  Out the the non common area not an 
issue put in the camping areas probably won't want to leave it behind so some 
lady in nice garb won't be dragging it in her dress. :)  Though SCA events are 
open to non-members, many events are also held on private property so that could 
be an issue for what ever reason.  It's then the land owners call though most 
would not turn down a service dog.
Perhaps you could make a list of events you would like to attend and contact the 
event steward or Seneschal of that group and double check. Before you forget.  I 
would be happy to help you find out if it's alright for you to bring your 
service dog. Please let me know.  Most of the time I know who to contact etc. 
Or, you could post to this list something like "These are the events I plan to 
attend. Please contact me off list concerning my service dog." Actually, 
everyone on this list would be happy to get the info for you and to assist you 
in hauling your gear around if your service dog is in hand or even not in hand.
As far as Uprising is concerned, only Duke Allen can answer about Uprising.  I'm 
sure he'll address this on the list.  Probably busy at work.
Please do let me know if I can help.  Oh, and you are not rocking the boat.  You 
have a valid question.
Yours in Service
Lady Redhawk..  
Perhaps event stewards can start including service dog info on their event 
registration and in their write up to assist those who really do have a 
'service' dog. That way the attendee won't feel automatically excluded when they 
see the 'no pets' in the write up.  Service dogs are not pets.  They are working 
helpers and necessary.

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From: Cadet <plurcadets at gmail.com>
To: Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 10:49:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Artemisia] service animals at SCA events

Greetings,

I was going to stay out of this discussion, but the more that I read,
the more I feel that I need to put my two-cents in.

I myself am more than happy to leave the decision as to whether-or-not
I will be attending an event up to the land owner.  I have a
disability and a service animal, but there are events such as Uprising
that may-as-well have a "no-(my "type" of person)" sign posted at the
gate; I (clinically/legally) lack the capacity to remember to contact
a land-owner in regards to bringing my service animal to an event
prior to my arrival.  I will say that there are events that I choose
not to attend as a result of such requirements, in favor of "rocking
the boat" and possibly causing discomfort to others.

As a disabled person I really don't understand how to approach such
events. What am I to do if my service animal who has been trained to
deal with my episodes, is turned away at the gates?  Typically, IF I
realize there may be a problem the day before, I choose not to attend.
Whether I'd like to or not.

Just my thoughts and feelings,
Lord Kveldulf Lohipoika.

PS.  Out of the body of what I've written, I don't know where society
events really fall.  By my understanding SCA events are NOT entirely
private events and therefore fall under "ADA public access events
rules"; due to the fact that we allow non-members, but again I have no
desire to "rock the boat" for land owners such as Sir Allen.

On 3/17/11, Redhawk <sca_redhawk at yahoo.com> wrote:
> much snipage..
> I agree with you Morgan.  My dogs are companion dogs as well.  When I broke
> my
> arm in many many pieces all of them wanted to lay on it to protect the arm.
> While being confine to the recline for so many months my dogs all of them,
> napped on me.  They knew.  When I could finally make it to the barn, even
> the
> horses knew.  They were calmer and quieter.  I miss them terribly when I
> attend
> events that are a no pets event.  Sometimes I'll bring a couple and leave
> them
> in the car and go out and take them around the block.  Which is yet another
> thing.. if folks do that, please bring bags to pick up your dogs' droppings
> so
> we don't leave a mess for others to step in. The no pet thing at events, it
> happens.  What gets me is at times folks will argue about this until a
> person
> has a pounding headache and their eyes glaze over.  If a pet is clearly a
> 'service' animal, it really isn't a pet any more.  It is a 'working' dog.
> Leave
> it alone.  Don't pet it or distract the dog from it's job.  Be respectfull
> when
> a person knows the place they are going is a no pet site or event or what
> ever.
> I'm wondering what happened to that word "Respect".  Most folks have it.
> There
> are some that can really blow it.
> Redhawk
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: morgan wolf <morganblaidddu at yahoo.com>
> To: Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 6:18:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Artemisia] service animals at SCA events
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rebecca Mikkelsen <mikkelsen_rebecca at hotmail.com>
>> To: artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org
>> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:23:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Artemisia] service animals at SCA events
>>
>>
>>While there is a very specific difference between Disability Service
>> Animals,
> Therapy Animals, and Companion Animals, and the law only requires that the
> Service Animals be allowed into places where animals are normally not
> allowed,
> most businesses allow all three rather than risk offending a customer/client
> by
> asking for the dog's documentation.
>
> For me personally, no my dogs are not trained Service Animals, but they are
> most
>
> definitely Companion Animals that not only know when I'm suffering agonizing
> spasms, they also do their best to physically comfort me (Mac will actually
> make
>
> himself into a backrest/heater ).
>  Morgan
>
>
> Baron Morgan Blaidd Du,
> GHA(2), CQC, PCA, CCH;
> Protege and Ghillie to Baron Master James Ulrich MacKellar, OL OP;
> and Baroness Mistress Rachel Ashton, OP .org/mailman/listinfo/artemisia
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