[Artemisia] Question for Kurtis/William (was Yay for Good TV! :D)

[Freydis the Good]

inkslinger1 at q.com  10:53 AM (12 minutes ago)  Wrote:

If you don't mind forwarding this on to the list for me, thank you.

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Well, it sure looks like the Knights of Mayhem on Nat Geo ruffled some
feathers in the SCA. My question to anyone feeling this way is, why? These
people at no point claim to be members of the SCA, nor is the SCA even
mentioned. Yes they call themselves knights, so what. It's not like there
are any actual knights that I know of in the SCA. Now before you go off all
half cocked on me, stop and think. We have SCA knights, and those people
are only recognized as knights within the SCA. An actual real life knight
would be someone like Sir Patrick Stewart. Does Mr. Andrews conduct himself
in a way that is commonly considered as chivalrous and knightly by SCA
standards? No he does not, but he isn't required too either. It is not Peer
like behavior to impose ones ideals of chivalry upon another person who
doesn't even belong to our organization. It is also not Peer like behavior
to speak ill this way of something someone else is doing outside of the
SCA. Running around and gossiping *period* is not Peer like behavior.
Aren't we all suppose to be acting like Peers whether we have been
recognized as such or not? I see a group of guys who love jousting, and are
putting everything on the line to try and get it recognized as a
professional sport like MMA is today. In order to do that they need to
convince state and federal legislatures of this, and they need to attract
the attention of sponsors. I think this TV show is an excellent way to get
that accomplished in a hurry. I bet Dana White of the UFC saw Knights of
Mayhem and thought " I wish I would have thought of doing things this way
when we started out." I personally wish the Knights of Mayhem and all the
rest of the people doing this heavy armored jousting the best of luck in
making their dream a reality. I intend to watch this show for the violence
of course, but also to see if these people can make their dream come true.

In Service of Many Dreams

HL Aaron di Paladin





On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Sean Oppenheimer <
sean_oppenheimer at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> In case you missed it, here is a bit of a start for Tamar and others
>
> http://history.westkingdom.org/Year13/Video/JuneCrown.htm
>
> It is fascinating to me to consider that this video was filmed a mere 4
> years before my love affair with the current middle ages began.  I remember
> the carpet armor, the freon can and army pot helmets.
>
> I started fighting a bit less than eight years after this video was taken.
>  For some reason, the fighting that was happening when I got started seems
> to have been VASTLY improved in that time.  I am constantly preaching about
> the evolution of our sport.  Our fighting really needs to be better than it
> was 47 years ago.  Likewise, our sport should be more refined now that it
> was 20 years, 10 years, even 5 years ago.  And I believe it is.  The sport,
> as a martial art is much more refined.  The armor continues to improve.
>  The overall look and feel of our fighters is much more medeival now than
> it was when we became a Kingdom.  I was recently tagged in a photo from an
> Uprising in 1996 or 1997.  I was amazed at how much better my look is now.
>
> But, that's kind of the point isn't it?
>
> Sean
>
> >
> > In a similar light, the way the SCA learned....pretty much
> > everything.....about armored combat was to get in there and do it. I
> > don't know if anyone has written a history about the development of this
> > fighting form; but I think it would be an AWESOME read if they did. I
> > can imagine that every step of the way, issues like switching from hard
> > wood sticks to rattan, the development of helms as we use them today,
> > shield construction, and dozens of other implementation details had
> > their roots in the school of hard knocks. There are probably even a
> > bunch of fighters here in this kingdom who were part of that evolution.
> > This is our history, and I'll bet you money that there's a great story
> > in there.
> >
> > Anyway, best of luck to you and happy trails :-)
> > -tamar
> >
>
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