[Artemisia] Fwd: [SCA Equestrian] Mock Hunts--who else does them?

Wed Oct 26 11:34:23 CDT 2011

FANTASTIC conversation...  thought I would share it.

Freydis

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Subject: Re: [SCA Equestrian] Mock Hunts--who else does them?
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From: *Dianne Karp* <diannekarp at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:08 PM
To: sca-equine at midrealm.org

WE did something similar at a West Antir by charging the castle with
fighters lined up on either side of the gate as we went through it.  WE had
planned on doing some javelin tossing but ...........long story.

The fighters were thrilled!!!

Siobhan

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Eule <eule at ecpi.com> wrote:

>  Engaging footman with horses?  I’m intrigued.  I was thinking about
> putting together an experiment to promote that very thing but it sounds like
> Caid may already have something going!  Please, tell us more!  I’d love to
> see any rules you’ve come up with.****
>
> ** **
>
> Eule/Steve****
>
> *Unus sed Leo*
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org [mailto:
> owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org] *On Behalf Of *Melissa
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:36 PM
> *To:* sca-equine at midrealm.org
> *Subject:* RE: [SCA Equestrian] Mock Hunts--who else does them?****
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> ** **
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> At Kings Hunt, there are "animals" in the forest (a bear is someone with a
> great sword, a wolf is 2 swords, etc).  Typically a fighter with two "dogs"
> (fighters with single sword) go out into the woods to hunt. ****
>
>  ****
>
> We replaced the fighter with a rider who had a heavy weapons javalin.  The
> rider would attack the animal with the javalin, ride off and leave the
> "dogs" to finish it off.   Mostly it was a way for fighters to experience a
> horse charging down on them.  We usually get 6-8 fighters who like to try
> this.  Including the King, at the last event. ****
>
>  ****
>
> Here is a short video of some of the passes we did at the first one. Also
> on the video is the javalin hunt on regular targets we do through the woods.
> ****
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSsh_gy2mT0****
>
> ** **
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>  ****
>
> -Arabella****
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> ** **
>

-- 
Siobhan ni Seaghdha, OP
Dianne Karp

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From: *Dianne Karp* <diannekarp at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:10 PM
To: sca-equine at midrealm.org

Rules

1. Get your Kingdom Earl Marshal and your Kingdom Equestrian Officer on
board.
2. Let the SEM and SEO know what you plan
3. follow the first rule - dont be stupid

Siobhan

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Trish A <knightlady411 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  I look forward to those posts of your rules for this. I think this would
> be a great draw in Trimaris also=)
> Eadaoin
>
> *  You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your
> love and affection.
>  - Buddha quote
>
> *
>
>   *From:* Donwenna <donwenna at gmail.com>
> *To:* sca-equine at midrealm.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:25 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [SCA Equestrian] Mock Hunts--who else does them?
> **
> We've done this 'experiment ' as well in An Tir, without any problems. **I'll
> check on the rules too. **Donwenna-- **Donwenna La Mareschale**friend me!
> http://www.facebook.com/donwenna**www.lanceofstanne.com/donwenna.html**
> www.huntguild.org**http://www.equestrianguild.antir.sca.org/**
> www.summerhunt.org**www.earnrokke.antir.sca.org**
> ****
>
>
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From: *Melissa* <midzor at avatarcomputing.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:52 PM
To: sca-equine at midrealm.org

**
I was there!  It was totally awesome.  The fighters kept asking us to do it
again and again, too.

-Arabella

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*From:* owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org [mailto:owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org]
*On Behalf Of *Dianne Karp
*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 7:08 PM
*To:* sca-equine at midrealm.org
*Subject:* Re: [SCA Equestrian] Mock Hunts--who else does them?

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From: *Melissa* <midzor at avatarcomputing.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:52 PM
To: sca-equine at midrealm.org

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That is pretty much the rules in Caid, also.

In fact, the Kingdom rules state that anything not explicitly covered in the
rules is up to the discretion of the Marshal-In-Charge.  :-)

-Arabella

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*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 7:10 PM
*To:* sca-equine at midrealm.org

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From: *Dianne Karp* <diannekarp at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:21 PM
To: sca-equine at midrealm.org

Next time, I want to plan a lower (one straw bale) open side (unoccupied)
so we can jump the castle wall!  charge up the hill and over the wall!!!
Wheeee!

AND throw javelins at the fighters this time!!!

Siobhan

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From: *mickmack* <mickmack32 at yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:48 AM
To: "sca-equine at midrealm.org" <sca-equine at midrealm.org>

 So my cohorts are 'game' for this heavy weapons javalin and "dogs"
activity.

Arabella, are there any rules to the game, how far off the line does the
rider need to be for throwing the javelin? How is this particular activity
scored? Are there any weapons spec or is it the same as what they would use
in Heavy Combat?

Has anyone out there done any live target shooting with Combat Archery bolts
from horseback? We have a group here that is really interested.

Thank you so much for this idea sharing. I know sometimes our group gets
into a rut and we try to come up with new ways to play.

Kiena

 *From:* Melissa <midzor at avatarcomputing.com>
*To:* sca-equine at midrealm.org
*Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:36 PM
  *From:* owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org [mailto:
owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org] *On Behalf Of *Donwenna
*Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2011 5:35 PM
*To:* sca-equine at midrealm.org
*Subject:* [SCA Equestrian] Mock Hunts--who else does them?

In An Tir, we do and event called Summer Hunt. It has been a big draw for
not only equestrians who get to handle hunting weapons on horseback, but
also the regular archers. I've seen mention of a couple of other events that
seem to be along the same lines but no websites or event reports or mention
of how the ' mock hunting' was conducted or how 'hunting' weapons are used.

Please take the opportunity to share on this topic.

-- 
Donwenna La Mareschale
friend me! http://www.facebook.com/donwenna
www.lanceofstanne.com/donwenna.html
www.huntguild.org
http://www.equestrianguild.antir.sca.org/
www.summerhunt.org
www.earnrokke.antir.sca.org

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From: *Melissa* <midzor at avatarcomputing.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:18 AM
To: sca-equine at midrealm.org

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The main "hunt" with all the different animals was just heavy figthers,
and I think they awarded points depending on the type of animal "killed."
Mostly we just did demos with the fighters after the main hunt.  They took
turns having us charge them.   Same weapons spec as used in Heavy Combat.
But there is no reason you couldn't do a full hunt, some teams on foot some
on horses.  :-)

The fighters mentioned that the hits were decent.  We weren't throwing
overly hard, but the extra momentum from the horses helped give it some
extra "oomph".    Best thing is to experiment with the ground
fighters...first at a walk, then increasing speeds, getting feedback from
them on if the hits are hard enough/too hard/just right.

Not any rules, per say, besides safety.    We rode as close to the fighters
as the rider/horse was confortable with, and no physical contact between
horse and ground fighter, of course.   This ranged from a few feet to much
farther.

(Most) horses are usually adverse to knocking into or stepping on a person,
so the distance sorta self-regulates.

When we first did this, I had to beg a couple heavy friends to be the guinea
pigs.  They were a bit nervouse at first, but that quickly disappeared after
a few minutes. Now there is a line waiting to be "charged" at.  :-)   Even
the King came out last time to participate.  Overall, they fighters really
liked having the experience of a calvary charge, and talked about how
daunting and effective as a scare tactic it was.

-Arabella

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*From:* owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org [mailto:owner-sca-equine at midrealm.org]
*On Behalf Of *mickmack
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:49 AM
*To:* sca-equine at midrealm.org
*Subject:* Re: [SCA Equestrian] Mock Hunts--who else does them?