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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Me
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ps we went to college stats to keep arrows flight
group running because of problems of area was going on at the time.
and the time has cume to move up are stats and move on i did not wont to make
you think that i was trying to split up the group and im sorry for
that. </FONT></DIV>ssage ----- </DIV>
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<A title=tangl@myway.com href="mailto:tangl@myway.com">tangl</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=artemisia@lists.gallowglass.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Artemisia] Arrows Flight
status, and other answers</DIV>
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<TD width="100%"><FONT color=black size=2>Hey all!<BR><BR>I saw this
post and thought I'd throw out my own bits of knowledge on this one.
Mistress Kathlyn, the Kingdom Senechale, is the best person to tag for
this, but I've also had personal experience here so I wanted to toss
this out to y'all. There's been several people ask me about this lately,
so it's on folk's minds. Please forgive me if I overstep my bounds, and
correct me if I give out any wrong or out-of-date info.<BR><BR>Well, I
found that the reason a group chooses to be a "college" rather than a
shire or anything else is simply this: In a college town, populations
fluctuate. The status of a College in the SCA has no minimum membership
requirements outside of having a Senechal. Do I know this because the
Cloak of the Golden Wing Herald grants me this vast knowledge?! NO! This
question was asked of a very similar population in the College of
Lyonsmarche, where I used to live. We, too, had enough people to go
Barony and we asked why we weren't. Thus, the knowledge was imparted by
EXPERIENCE (yuck!) and by asking questions (yeah!) <BR><BR>Now for the
rest of your questions.<BR><BR>Why aren't you a shire or barony instead?
It will sound TOTALLY lame, but it's because you haven't asked to be.
See, in order to become a shire, you have to write a petition, signed by
every member in the group you can get, plus anyone else who wants to
sign, and submit the request to the Crown. You show, through the
signatures, complete with membership card numbers, that you have the
staff and the desire to become a shire. The proper authorities can guide
you, or you can look it up online off the SCA.org website as to what the
office and membership reqs are, but in a nutshell, the only thing to do
is ask everyone there if that's what they want to be. Kedron Vale had
been Incipient for 7 years when J-R and I joined up in 1986. The local
officers thought there was some elaborate process but I looked up the
reqs in the Kingdom of Atenveldt Laws and saw we just needed to write a
letter saying we wanted the status change. So we did, and Brion and Anna
granted it to us at the Estrella War in '87 or so. It's simple, or at
least it was back then, so don't fear it if you guys really want to go
for it!<BR><BR>As for the Barony thingie, well, get more memberships,
then maintain them for a while, say 3 years. *After* you decide to
become a Barony. Not from three years ago. People regularly have attacks
of Real Life (Chiurgeon! Antidote? Vaccine? Can somebody get on that?)
and those dang things hit ya at the most inopportune times. Make sure,
when you decide to go for Barony, that you have three *very* important
things:<BR><BR>1) Consistant membership. According to Corpora, currently
on the website (Senechal's Handbook, page 110), you must have 25
subscribing members to be a Barony.<BR><BR>2) A full slate of Officers
who are in the job AND REPORTING REGULARLY. As a shire, there are
offices that the kingdom does not need to hear from every month, such as
Herald. However, the instant those papers are signed that say Arrow's
Flight is now the Barony of Arrow's Flight, you have to have everybody
on the Officers' Roster reporting EVERY MONTH. Otherwise, you'll lose
that Baronial Status before your first Domesday is due. You get one
month of a grace period, but if you miss the second consecutive month,
your Senechal gets told to fix it or fire you. By the third month, your
kingdom officer can fire you and demand a new officer is in your place
by the next reporting deadline. So, make sure you guys practice
reporting at all levels and get into the habit long before those crowns
are commissioned.<BR><BR>3) A consensus saying that folks in your area
WANT to advance and what they want to advance TO. Do they want to become
a Barony? How many of them want to become a barony? Also, when you
petition to become a barony, you also need to offer up to the Crown some
candidates for the title of Founding Baron and/or Baroness. S o get that
sussed out before you get too far in the process. Now, this is crucial
to handle properly, and with attention to people's feelings. I've seen a
group in another kingdom go barony, and it brought out the WORST in
people. The problem wasn't from the people who were going for the title,
but from the wars waged by their supporters. It's a badge of shame that
scars that place even to this day, and you see it if you visit, even if
you're not from that kingdom. Be ready to withdraw your petition if your
group starts eating itself over that appointment. If they are that
vicious before it even gains the status, how the populace possibly be
expected to be supportive during that very fragile first
year?<BR><BR>According to the SH, you also need to have a name and
device registered with the College of Arms, which you do, and a "strong
record" of doing events and stuff in the SCA. You guys have those sewn
up. I see you everywhere. You represent yourselves, your area and this
kingdom very well. Keep it up and you're already on your
way.<BR><BR>Shedding the mantle of "college" in favor of "shire" or more
is a very important step. You really need to assess who is living there
and whether they have the staying power to stick with this. You guys
have to be ready to put in the overtime to keep the group afloat. You'll
learn a lot about each other, but remember you guys are freinds, and
you'll be fine. <BR><BR>Please, please, make sure you ask for help any
and every time you need it, like you did this time. It's important to
get help from folks who have been there. They usually can detect the
warning signs of a problem and can help avert them. Keep me posted!
Going for a bigger status is a sign of
growth!<BR><BR>TanglWing<BR><BR><BR></FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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