[Sca-librarians] reference help

[Johnna Holloway]

I sent this to Nancy last evening.
"/Tablet-woven Braid from a Thirteenth-century Site/." The Antiquaries 
Journal , vol. 34, no. 3-4 (July- October 1954), pp. 234-235. *...
it's cited in *
the book  Textiles and clothing, c.1150-c.1450
By Elisabeth Crowfoot, Frances Pritchard, Kay Staniland

Now if you search "/Tablet-woven Braid from a Thirteenth-century Site" 
on google it turns up in /Textiles and clothing, c.1150-c.1450
and in that citation it looks like this small article is within another 
larger article by R. C. Musson.

If you own the book, you can check the bibliography there.
Does this make sense?

Johnna


galefridus at optimum.net wrote:
> There's an interesting problem here -- I just checked the online TOC 
> of the Antiquaries Journal and found that Grace Crowfoot published 
> exactly two articles in that journal, neither of which is the one 
> you're looking for.  Moreover, none of the more reliable 
> bibliographies of Crowfoot's work that I have located list the article 
> in question.  For example, the biographical essay written by her 
> daughter 
> (http://www.brown.edu/Research/Breaking_Ground/bios/Crowfoot_Grace.pdf) 
> includes a comprehensive bibliography, and this article is not among 
> those listed.  It looks like we have a phantom citation.
>
> It seems to me that one of a couple things might have happened, 
> probably in combination:
>
> 1.  An article with the given title exists somewhere, but was written 
> by someone else, possibly one of her daughters who were also involved 
> in this area of scholarship, or
>
> 2.  An article was written by Grace Crowfoot on the subject described 
> by the title, but it had a different title and was published in a 
> different journal.
>
> 3.  Someone who was compiling a bibliography did not properly document 
> his or her sources, resulting in the creation of the phantom citation.
>
> 4.  Others saw the phantom citation and included it in their 
> bibliographies without verification.
>
> This is not an uncommon occurrence -- I have even read scholarly 
> articles discussing the perpetuation of the phantom citation.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: SNSpies at aol.com
> Date: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [Sca-librarians] reference help
> To: galefridus at optimum.net
>
> > Actually, that is a different (but wonderful!) article. Thanks
> > for
> > looking.
> > Nancy
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/24/2009 11:10:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight
> > Time,
> > galefridus at optimum.net writes:
> >
> > Here is what appears to be the full citation, according to the
> > Avery
> > Index:
> >
> > Author(s): Crowfoot, Grace M.
> > Title: The tablet-woven braids from the vestments of St.
> > Cuthbert at
> > Durham ...
> > Source: Antiquaries journal 1939 Jan., v. 19, p. [57]-80.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: SNSpies at aol.com
> > Date: Monday, August 24, 2009 5:25 pm
> > Subject: [Sca-librarians] reference help
> > To: sca-librarians at lists.gallowglass.org
> >
> > > Wonderful people, may I please ask your help finding the rest of
> > > a
> > > citation? It is in an "Antiquaries Journal" and has on pp.
> > 234-
> > > 235 a tiny article
> > > by Grace Crowfoot on a 'Tablet-woven braid from a thirteenth-
> > > century
> > > site'. Theoretically, this is in vol. XXXIV, but when I tract
> > > that volume
> > > on-line, that article is not in that volume or on those pages.
> > > Help!
> > >
> > > With eternal thanks, as always.
> > >
> > > Nancy
> > >
> > > Nancy Spies
> > > Arelate Studio
> > > _www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html_
> > > (http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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