[Artemisia] What you say via electronic means

[Morgan Wolf]

Aaahhh, but again, you miss the point.  How can you judge someone on things that you don't have access to?  F'rinstance, Konrad and Kortland can judge me by what I say to them, and what I say that they see or hear, but they can't judge me by what they DON'T see or hear.  Regardless of what I've sent privately, I'm judged by most people by what they see publicly, and so is everyone else.

So, are you giving in on the dozen arrows??

Morgan Blaidd Du
Protege and Ghillie to
Baron James Ulrich MacKellar and
Baroness Rachel Ashton
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wayne Hamberg 
  To: Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [Artemisia] What you say via electronic means


  The "Sent Items" mailbox is far more revealing, truthful and will give you a better look into somebody's character than anything they will post on the Aerie and it is a double standard if you place weight on public comments and totally disregard what somebody says privately.

  Michael


  Morgan Wolf <morganwolf at sofast.net> wrote: 
    Michael, my boy, you missed the point. Go back thru the Aerie, as far as you like, and re-read all of the posts from Countess Caryn.  I'll bet you a dozen arrows you can't find any rude, impolite posts, no matter how far you go back.

    I can honestly say that I have been taken to task for "ripping" on someone that is considered by many to be an example of what is wrong with the SCA, because such ripping is not considered the proper way of dealing with such people.

    What is said privately is just that, private.  What is said publically is subject to the scrutiny and interpretation of everyone who "hears" it.

    BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY- why do YOU consider ripping on you to be held in a different light than a popular peer??  Perhaps you should consider that maybe, just maybe, the way others perceive you is not nearly as bad as you like to think.  You may not be quite the martyr you believe yourself to be.

    Of course, I could be wrong.



    Morgan Blaidd Du
    Protege and Ghillie to
    Baron James Ulrich MacKellar and
    Baroness Rachel Ashton
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Wayne Hamberg 
      To: artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org 
      Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 8:38 PM
      Subject: [Artemisia] What you say via electronic means


      > While the Crown is considering this, they have a couple of Pelicans
      > say "check out what he just posted on the Aerie". They do so, and
      > find that Melvin has just nailed someone hide to the door, in a very
      > blunt manner.

      1) Doing this is an exclusionary tactic and will only be used as an
         excuse to not to give somebody an award.  By the vary nature of
         online communication it is typically blunt, poorly written and
         even the most well intentioned comment can sound negative.

      2) This standard isn't going to be universally applied.  Somebody
         ripping on a popular peer might won't be held in the same light
         as say somebody ripping on me.  Is there a difference?  No!  So
         why would anybody even suggest a standard that isn't going to
         be fair and honorable to all regardless of rank.

      3) It's not what is said publically what you need to worry about
         but what is said privately.  Politicans will kiss babies and tell
         you what they think you want to hear while stealing your lollipop.
         Just because somebody is saying something publically doesn't mean
         others aren't saying far worse privately.

      Michael



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