[Artemisia] Enough on the school thing

[Allen Hall]

Vicar Morgan,

I'm surprised that an educated and cultured man such as yourself would buy 
into that Tudor propoganda.....

Historical records show that Richard was very much against George's 
execution.  And Edward was a serious party boy WAY before George muttered 
the words "Nell Butler".

During Richards life time, there is absolutely NO mention of hunchback or 
any of the other Tudor non-sense.  Conversely, Richard was known as an 
extremely capable warrior and excellent war commander.  During the battle of 
Bosworth, Richard swept towards Henry Tudor, and Tudor was terrified, 
knowing he was no match for Richard man to man.  I'm sure Henry's brais 
needing laundering following that battle.

Who stood to gain by the death of the Princes?  Two people particularly, the 
Duke of Buckingham and Tudor.  Buckingham even had complete access to them 
as Constable of England....there's your prime suspect.

Henrys support in England?  Hmmm. when he marched from his landing he gained 
no English supported and very few Welsh.  He was apparently a bit alarmed 
about that.

It's a long story, but I bet we've both got people looking up these guys, 
and that's a very good thing!  From my side of the story, read "The Sun in 
Spleandor" by Sharon Kay Penman.  For Vicar Morgan's side 
(faulty......<vbg>) read Shakespear.  Good reading!

We'll continue the debate on this as you all please.  And we still have to 
debate the Richard 2 and Henry 4 thing.

Cheers!

Alan



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "morgan wolf" <morganblaidddu at yahoo.com>
To: "Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list" <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Artemisia] Enough on the school thing


His Grace posited-



  Or how about that upstart Tudor (with NO royal English blood)
overthrowing Richard the Third?

How can one even doubt who to support?  Richard Plantagenet planted 
poisonous words in good King Edward's ear to get the brother between them, 
poor George, executed for treason, then played on Edward's guilt to lead him 
to drink himself to death, then had Edward's sons declared illegitimate so 
that he could take the Throne for himself!  The same sons of Edward that 
went into the Tower ad Richard's command, and were never seen again!  It is 
also said that the miserable hunchback Richard then poinsoned his own wife 
to free him to have his way with his own niece, Edward's daughter Elizabeth!

Henry Tudor, on the other hand, was of right noble blood, and recognized the 
legitimacy of Edward's children.  He is no usurper, but instead righted the 
wrongs of the heinous Richard, by putting Edward's daughter on the Throne as 
Queen.  Of course, a Queen should have a noble and righteous King by her 
side, and who better than a Welshman?

All men of Honor and Chivalry (you know, the Welsh) support Henry Tudor, and 
so do many Englishmen!

Morgan Blaidd Du

Cymru am Byth!!



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