Pet Peeves - was RE: [Artemisia] Re: [Summits] Re: [cathedral]Comments, regarding latestBoD announcment

Thu Mar 30 22:09:48 CST 2006

My statement was not intended as a slam or to "Frost" you or anyone else, 
merely saying that if you see a problem, don't just point out the problem 
but offer a way to fix it. Complaining about something makes it worse, not 
better.
As I see it this whole proposal has come about due to the lengthy process 
for temporarily banishing someone who is a definable detriment to the SCA. 
You having been in the position of sitting the thrones and having been an 
officer of some note, know better than many the length of paperwork we go 
through. By no means do I think that the proposal is perfect in word or 
implementation, however I do think that it has its merits. I also think that 
if we feel a need to comment on it (If you are or want to ever be active in 
the SCA, then you should have a vested interest in the BoD) then show where 
you feel it is incorrect, get as much background information as you can, and 
discuss the item of interest with others. Then make a comment to the BoD or 
Local officers as appropriate on how you feel it should be fixed. Personally 
I believe there must be a valid reason for this to have come up. I don't 
think someone just sat down and said "Hey, let's make the S.S. the head mojo 
jumbo picker of players." I think there has to be a reason and until such 
time we need to examine the wording and make appropriate comments thereon. 
Again "Don't tear down fences till you know why they were put up."
Getting off the soapbox I saved rom the kindling pile :)
Vlad

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>Ok,  my turn for the soapbox (and no, Conrad, you don't get to use it for 
>kindling)  ;o) It's mine, mine! I tell you.
>
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>There isn't much else that frosts me more than a statement like the 
>following:
>
>"So if you don't have a way to fix it and a desire to do so, then there is 
>always the option of leaving and forming a group in your own likeness. "
>
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>
>What in sam hill is wrong with pointing out that which we/I see is broken?  
>Why do I have to leave my group/hobby/country if I happen to disagree with 
>someone's point of view? Or the majority's point of view?  or (I have to do 
>this) the current Administration?  ;o)
>
>Now, please understand - this note of mine isn't a flame of any sort - it 
>is only an OPINION.  It is as right and wrong as anyone's, and I (and Sir 
>Dan) should be allowed to express whatever opinions we wish without feeling 
>like we are sub-human or not wanted.
>
>Sir Dan feels that there is something wrong with the BoD and this new 
>proposal.  Now, I happen to agree with him, but even if I didn't, that 
>doesn't mean he needs to leave or that I do.  Or that Vlad and his lady do. 
>  We can agree to disagree and still play together, can't we?
>
>
>
>whew.
>
>Ok, I am going away again.  Thank you for your time.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ja'mala
>
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