[Artemisia] Positive steps; plus the Bog of Bureaucratic Absurdity ; -)

[Stephanae Baker]

About IDing kids, I just wanted to mention (and I hope I'm not  
repeating anyone since I'm new on the list) that our Henna Grrrls in  
Cote du Ciel volunteered to henna ID on the kids at Estrella War. It  
was popular with kids and parents alike, although the word didn't get  
around as much as we'd have liked. I can't make promises on their  
behalf, but I believe they're willing to do that at any event where  
they're merchanting.

Belladonna di Francia


On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Xplex at aol.com wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/18/2007 3:04:18 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> artemisia-request at lists.gallowglass.org [Bethoc] writes:
>
>>> As far as the sign in and out of the youth center.... I  
>>> wish.....  we've
> tried to implement that as well..
> [...]
> I know who their parents are, and I also know what activities they  
> were
> involved in that might have earned them a signature in their pages  
> programs,  etc.
> <<
>
> Yes, I can imagine that the sign-in/sign-out thing would be much more
> difficult in the context of an SCA event -- especially a large,  
> outdoor one. I'd
> think it might be more workable for some activities than others,  
> but there are
> certainly some situations where it's just not practical, due to  
> families
> coming and going, and kids doing a bit of this here, and a bit of  
> that there...
> And it's easier to patrol, say, a church building where Girl Scouts  
> are
> congregating, than it is to patrol the grounds of a large park area...
>
> There's definitely appeal to the "free range kids" aspect,  
> too...  :-)  I'd
> think the "education" approach, combined with the "buddy  system,"  
> is probably
> the best bet, under those conditions, so that  families and kids  
> know what to
> watch for, and how to deal with situations that  arise, and so that  
> the kids
> have some backup.
>
> As for the IDing of kids -- it was easier with Girl Scouts,  
> because  they're
> not doing garb, and they don't care if they're all wearing pretty  
> much  the
> same thing! :-)  I think we pondered the tabards and favors  
> approaches,  as
> well, and came to similar conclusions... but it's sorta floating  
> around  in the
> Arrows' Flight sub-conversational ether at this point :-) , so  
> maybe  something
> workable will occur to someone, one of these days! And yes,  
> getting  the kids
> to put up with whatever it is (or better yet, be enthusiastic   
> about it!) is
> the challenge! :-)
>
> =====
> I should clarify, on the other point:
>
>
>
>>> it wouldn't take much to prove it wasn't you. less of  course the  
>>> person
> who stole your identity looks just like  you.<<
>
> You're correct that the exact examples don't apply directly  here (for
> instance -- no, a bad credit report shouldn't have any effect in   
> this context). The
> examples are more cautionary tales about systems gone awry,  in  
> real life
> experience -- for each of the examples, whereas it should be,  as  
> you indicate, a
> straightforward matter to fix errors, it all too often turns  out  
> to be a
> surprisingly bothersome pain in the neck.
>
> Especially if you have to sleuth out what's on your "record," in  
> the first
> place, before you can fix it, which would be the case if the only  
> returned
> data is a mysterious "fail." The "pass/fail" aspect of the thing,  
> as  announced,
> is what has me the most concerned, for that reason.
>
>
>
> Having been through an incredibly frustrating attempt to correct an
> identity-related problem before, myself, where it really  
> *shouldn't* have taken  much
> to resolve the problem, but it turned out to, anyway -- and since  
> I  know
> people who are stuck in similar Bogs of Bureaucratic Absurdity :- 
> P ,  also not of
> their own making -- I no longer assume these kinds of systems   
> function in the
> well-managed way one might reasonably suppose they  would.
>
> Sigh...
>
> I just figure the most constructive time to mention  these past  
> real-life
> experiences of adverse effects is now, while the  planning is still  
> in the works,
> when such things can be more easily taken  into consideration. (Partly
> because, for me, it makes me nuts when people  wait to pipe up  
> until after the fact,
> to tell me all about how I did  something all wrong, instead of  
> contributing
> their input at the time,  when it could have made a difference! :- 
> P :-)  )
>
> CJ the Jaded ;-)
>
>
>
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