[Artemisia] SCA Skills in a Modern Plague- specifically insulin.

[jedda_fw at yahoo.com]

I have read alot of what was said.  I smiled the whole time through this and 
read and kept smiling, and thought sometimes the books just think they know what 
they are talking about.

Type 2 diabetes also known as adult onset and it can happen to a teenager 
because of poor eating habits is genetically proven to be known of someone in 
either side of the family through parents or grandparents, and often can be 
controlled through diet and exercise if it is caught soon enough but there are 
many that live with type 2 for many years not knowing that the tiredness and 
frequent toilet breaks and drinking more than usual could coincide with it or it 
is plainly ignored and don't want to admit they prosibly could have something 
wrong, and not all over weight people get diabetes.  


Type 1 which my son has had since he was 5 is insulin dependant and is now 
suffering the side affects of not wanting to deal with it in the proper way is 
now going blind with retinal separation and luckily it can be fixed, but not 
cure what is going on with himself.  Type 1 is insulin dependant and nothing 
else can control it, believe me I have done enough research to write a book and 
been in and out of hospitals with him with high and lower sugar affects.  So 
please do not encourage or even ask someone to try these things unless you are 
proven to know anything is affective first hand.  People do want to look for 
quick fixes but this is one disease that doesn't have one.  Unless you call 
death a quick fix.  


All type 1 diabetics have to control their insulin levels with insulin, eating 
foods that are lower in sugars or small proportions and insulin to match that 
food to keep their A1C levels at a normal range.  Eating alot of starches or 
food that can produce sugars in the digestive process is not good for diabetics 
of each type, that is why those with this disease have to have more insulin with 
their meals.

One of the things the diabetic specialist are looking into is iclet transplants 
and in some countries they have started this but on older people and are having 
success and either it is curing or reducing to a small amount of insulin people 
where once taking.  So this is one thing but I doubt america will see it too 
soon.  I know australia is starting to try with teenagers but not read of any 
results as of yet.

I hope this helps a little and not step on any ones toes for putting my two bits 
in.

Cathryn Anne




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From: Dan Reese <dan.reese at live.com>
To: artemisia SCA <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 4:21:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Artemisia] SCA Skills in a Modern Plague- specifically insulin.


Quoting:

> In one of my books and herbal info I found where "One cup of String bean tea 
> is equal to at least one unit of insulin"
> Now you just have to figure out how to make stringbean tea and you may have 
> a chance.
> The book also says that if you mix peeled Pumpkin seeds,  Fragrant valerian 
> root and bilberry leaves in equal parts and steep 1 tbsp in 1 cup boiling 
> water and drink one cup in the course of a day unsweetened it can help to 
> improve sugar tolerance.
>    Another recipe it gives is to mix bilberry leaves in equal parts with 1 
> or 2 of the following : Bean pods, nettle, milfoil, European centaury, 
> Dancelion or Blackberry leaves.  Parboil 1 tbsp in 1/2 cup water for 10 min. 
> Drink 1 to 1 1/2 cups a day unsweetened but not with in an hour of meals 
> before or after.
> 
> I have no idea how or if they work but if your looking at death it may be 
> worth a try.
> Annabella

No offense to your book but if that worked at all, it would only work for a type 
2 diabetic. Type 1 Insulin dependent diabetics 

can't use substitutes. Insulin is a protein peptide hormone composed of 51 amino 
acids. Stringbeans are nowhere close to this. 

Even if it did work for a type 1 diabetic at all, the formula given would 
require monstrously huge quantities to live. 

Personally, by the formulas given in your book, I'd require something around 11 
gallons of stringbean tea per day to get by. 




> Message: 9
> I think another health consequence of "modern times" is frankly our diet
> and lifestyle.  There wasn't prevalent and endemic health issues such as
> diabetes, heart disease and cancer in the middle ages.  Sure they were
> present, but the medieval lifestyle wasn't backed up with a high
> sugar/low exercise couch potato lifestyle. They didn't have large
> amounts of the population, including children being significantly
> overweight which leads to many of the above issues.  Diets and
> lifestyles were very different.  
> 
> I think taken in account, after a world changing event the general
> population health should improve from those known health issues. Diet
> and exercise it already a regimen for modern sufferers so over the years
> with a change back to an agrarian/working lifestyle things should
> reverse. Sure, there will be a huge die-off of the current population
> with modern health issues, but that is to be expected when a loss to
> resource event happens. 
> 
> Juliana

What you say there is very true regarding type 2 diabetes, but again, for type 1 
diabetics like myself, lifestyle had nothing to do with it. Type 1 Diabetes is a 
genetic disease that results from autoimmune destruction of insulin-producing 
beta cells of the pancreas. If modern society falls apart, all type 1s will die. 

                        
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