[Artemisia] SCA Skills in a Modern Plague- specifically insulin.

[Laura Stumpp]

In other new developments in medicine...

About two years ago, a really interesting doctor starting experimenting with
what has been dubbed 'ghost hearts.' The experiment uses rats-the doctor
used a special detergent which washed all of the red blood cells out of the
tissue but left the remaining structures behind, hence the term 'ghost
heart.' She then injected the young red blood cells of another rat. These
cells did not yet have their pre-designated purpose, but when they found
themselves injected in the cardiac tissue, they turned into cardiac blood
cells fully compatable to the new rat. Within three weeks the heart was
beating on its own again and could be transplanted into the new rat with no
organ rejection problems at all!

This project is now expanding to experiement with other organs: livers,
kidneys and pancreas! Those diabetics who have a non-functional pancreas
could conceivably get a new one that works just fine and produces the
necessary insulin. I don't know that this would work for Type 1 diabetics at
all, but for the Type 2 is presents the possibility of a cure.

Further great news is that this doctor is in this country, in St. Louis.
Look this up on the web sometime-it's fascinating science for those people
who follow such stuff.

Osondrea

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 3:04 PM, <jedda_fw at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have read alot of what was said.  I smiled the whole time through this
> and
> read and kept smiling, and thought sometimes the books just think they know
> what
> they are talking about.
>
> Type 2 diabetes also known as adult onset and it can happen to a teenager
> because of poor eating habits is genetically proven to be known of someone
> in
> either side of the family through parents or grandparents, and often can be
> controlled through diet and exercise if it is caught soon enough but there
> are
> many that live with type 2 for many years not knowing that the tiredness
> and
> frequent toilet breaks and drinking more than usual could coincide with it
> or it
> is plainly ignored and don't want to admit they prosibly could have
> something
> wrong, and not all over weight people get diabetes.
>
>
> Type 1 which my son has had since he was 5 is insulin dependant and is now
> suffering the side affects of not wanting to deal with it in the proper way
> is
> now going blind with retinal separation and luckily it can be fixed, but
> not
> cure what is going on with himself.  Type 1 is insulin dependant and
> nothing
> else can control it, believe me I have done enough research to write a book
> and
> been in and out of hospitals with him with high and lower sugar affects.
> So
> please do not encourage or even ask someone to try these things unless you
> are
> proven to know anything is affective first hand.  People do want to look
> for
> quick fixes but this is one disease that doesn't have one.  Unless you call
> death a quick fix.
>
>
> All type 1 diabetics have to control their insulin levels with insulin,
> eating
> foods that are lower in sugars or small proportions and insulin to match
> that
> food to keep their A1C levels at a normal range.  Eating alot of starches
> or
> food that can produce sugars in the digestive process is not good for
> diabetics
> of each type, that is why those with this disease have to have more insulin
> with
> their meals.
>
> One of the things the diabetic specialist are looking into is iclet
> transplants
> and in some countries they have started this but on older people and are
> having
> success and either it is curing or reducing to a small amount of insulin
> people
> where once taking.  So this is one thing but I doubt america will see it
> too
> soon.  I know australia is starting to try with teenagers but not read of
> any
> results as of yet.
>
> I hope this helps a little and not step on any ones toes for putting my two
> bits
> in.
>
> Cathryn Anne
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Reese <dan.reese at live.com>
> To: artemisia SCA <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
> Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 4:21:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Artemisia] SCA Skills in a Modern Plague- specifically
> insulin.
>
>
> Quoting:
>
> > In one of my books and herbal info I found where "One cup of String bean
> tea
> > is equal to at least one unit of insulin"
> > Now you just have to figure out how to make stringbean tea and you may
> have
> > a chance.
> > The book also says that if you mix peeled Pumpkin seeds,  Fragrant
> valerian
> > root and bilberry leaves in equal parts and steep 1 tbsp in 1 cup boiling
> > water and drink one cup in the course of a day unsweetened it can help to
> > improve sugar tolerance.
> >    Another recipe it gives is to mix bilberry leaves in equal parts with
> 1
> > or 2 of the following : Bean pods, nettle, milfoil, European centaury,
> > Dancelion or Blackberry leaves.  Parboil 1 tbsp in 1/2 cup water for 10
> min.
> > Drink 1 to 1 1/2 cups a day unsweetened but not with in an hour of meals
> > before or after.
> >
> > I have no idea how or if they work but if your looking at death it may be
> > worth a try.
> > Annabella
>
> No offense to your book but if that worked at all, it would only work for a
> type
> 2 diabetic. Type 1 Insulin dependent diabetics
>
> can't use substitutes. Insulin is a protein peptide hormone composed of 51
> amino
> acids. Stringbeans are nowhere close to this.
>
> Even if it did work for a type 1 diabetic at all, the formula given would
> require monstrously huge quantities to live.
>
> Personally, by the formulas given in your book, I'd require something
> around 11
> gallons of stringbean tea per day to get by.
>
>
>
>
> > Message: 9
> > I think another health consequence of "modern times" is frankly our diet
> > and lifestyle.  There wasn't prevalent and endemic health issues such as
> > diabetes, heart disease and cancer in the middle ages.  Sure they were
> > present, but the medieval lifestyle wasn't backed up with a high
> > sugar/low exercise couch potato lifestyle. They didn't have large
> > amounts of the population, including children being significantly
> > overweight which leads to many of the above issues.  Diets and
> > lifestyles were very different.
> >
> > I think taken in account, after a world changing event the general
> > population health should improve from those known health issues. Diet
> > and exercise it already a regimen for modern sufferers so over the years
> > with a change back to an agrarian/working lifestyle things should
> > reverse. Sure, there will be a huge die-off of the current population
> > with modern health issues, but that is to be expected when a loss to
> > resource event happens.
> >
> > Juliana
>
> What you say there is very true regarding type 2 diabetes, but again, for
> type 1
> diabetics like myself, lifestyle had nothing to do with it. Type 1 Diabetes
> is a
> genetic disease that results from autoimmune destruction of
> insulin-producing
> beta cells of the pancreas. If modern society falls apart, all type 1s will
> die.
>
>
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