[Artemisia] Kingdom Financial Crisis

[Jackman-Brink, Julia]

I did not respond, because it is very hard to have a valid discussion without actual figures and a past and proposed/current budget to compare.  I know what the budget was when I was Kingdom Seneschal, and how close to the red it ran then...I can only surmise that our base coffers are much lower since our base expenses (especially in travel reimbursement) have nearly tripled since then, and words were made publically about those changes.  Not knowing how much our kingdom events made (or didn't make) plays directly into that too.  If our events are not being run well, then nothing comes in to replace what you spend on them.  Fundraisers will help but aren't going to save the kingdom (eventually your populace will run out of disposable income, if they had any), solid fiscal management, a reasonable budget and a level headed financial policy will.  It's hard times and we need to tighten the belts to survive.  If the KFC wants good input...then give us the complete data.  It's public information.  

Juliana
BSK

-----Original Message-----
From: artemisia-bounces at lists.gallowglass.org [mailto:artemisia-bounces at lists.gallowglass.org] On Behalf Of Jeanine Schlauch
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:01 PM
To: Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Artemisia] Kingdom Financial Crisis

A number of the questions I had and did send to the KFC were about the sparce details of the supplied budget - travel, officer expenses and so on.

Sir Gregory, I sure hope you are wrong about where that 1700 went.  But I'll leave it to the KFC to clarify that before I shoot off my mouth (too much) ;o)

Morgan
Arn Hold

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----- Original Message -----
From: "gregero" <gregero at gmail.com>
To: "Kingdom of Artemisia mailing list" <artemisia at lists.gallowglass.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 2:47:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Artemisia] Kingdom Financial Crisis

Facebook has all but killed this list.  I would think there would be less participation here than if a discussion was held at Uprising, but I also understand your point. In the end it is up to the KFC when and where and how they would like to try to do it. If it is held at Uprising, I will try my best to take minutes and post them.

In terms of questioning the "general supplies" issue, the Kingdom Exchequer office does a quick review of event budgets submitted. Sometimes questions get asked, or suggestions made with the goal of getting a circumspect budget, but unless there is something specifically flat our wrong (sending the group's balance into the red for example), the Kingdom level isn't trying to dictate nor does it want to dictate how local groups spend their money.  I understand that discussion is fraught with interpersonal traps, but that is part of the job of the Kingdom office.

And don't quote me on this, I know it hasn't been directly addressed yet, but it is my understanding that a large chunk of the $1700 the Kingdom spent was on enough award medallions to last us several years. Validation or info refuting my understand will at least be in the financial report sent to the Sage I mentioned if not in an early discussion with the KFC.

Gregory

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Caointiarn <caointiarn1 at bresnan.net> wrote:

> I admit my post was  snarky.   I sent in my letter in April, and hadn't
> heard or seen any response.  A simple:" the Financial Committee will 
> meet <this date> and we will respond to all inquiries at/after  that time."
> Would have been polite,  Instead of "dead air."
>
> I'm concerned that only 3 letters were sent to the Financial Committee,
> especially after the postings of discussions on different  sites.   Having
> a
> meeting at Uprising is not a good answer  -- various people, including 
> me, interested in participating in this discussion won't be at Uprising.
> Uprising is not good for holding these types of business meetings when 
> people come to play & socialize.  What is so horrible about holding a 
> discussion HERE?
>
> I  find it ironic that our Shire Reeve complained that she was 
> questioned on our recent event's budget for "general supplies"  of 
> less than $50.00, and yet  the 2014  Kingdom budget for "General 
> Supplies"  of $1705  goes unexplained.
>
> The Financial  Committee  has asked  the Populace for "input & ideas" for a
> "realistic fiscal outlook,"   but we really need to understand how the
> crisis came about, before we can  help create a plan.    I'm copying this
> to
> the financial address as well  -- so hopefully a discussion can be 
> created here,  and not just a meeting at Uprising.
>
> A Servant of Artemisia,
> Caointiarn
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amber Snurkowski
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:10 AM
> Just a friendly word because sometime I need this reminder myself.
> Remember that all of these people  volunteer their time and have real 
> jobs and lives, just like all of us.
> Asking for a time line is certainly acceptable as these things are 
> important. But asking with kindness is not only the right thing to do 
> but will certainly get better results.
>
> Baroness Syeira
> Barony of Arn Hold
>  On Jun 9, 2015 9:49 AM, "Caointiarn" <caointiarn1 at bresnan.net> wrote:
>
> > YEAH . . . . same with that "dialogue" that was supposed to happen 
> > with the Kingdom Financial Committee . . .
> > Caointiarn
>
>
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